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    On this page there are a few very good tips to improve health and physical performance. I recomment looking under the "channels" link.

    Enjoy
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    In the news papers in Holland ( front page to be exact ) it says that a pill has been made , that does lot's of brilliant things and it helps lose wait.
    It was confirmed by a leading British Science magazine ( don't know the exact name, something like the Lancet... , first letter was an L )

    They expect it to do just as well as Prozac, and that went very very well back then.

    Have you guy's read about this ?
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    172 today.
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    I'm 16% fat. 18 BMI. My weight is not really a problem.

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    I just read today, that people with BMI between 25 and 30 actually live longer than average! Maybe a bit of fat on the bones is actually good for you as long as it not too much. Above 30 and the life-expectancy dropped fast though.

    That good news for me though - BMI at 25,6 today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magraev
    I just read today, that people with BMI between 25 and 30 actually live longer than average! Maybe a bit of fat on the bones is actually good for you as long as it not too much. Above 30 and the life-expectancy dropped fast though.

    That good news for me though - BMI at 25,6 today
    hmmm I am a bit dead then, 17.25 BMI and not very much body fat at all good luck downing those beers for your life

    Devdave how did you guess the optimum way to keep alive?

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    Uh-oh. Lol. I thought 20-25 BMI was desirable?

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    Um, I read that new research about the BMI today as well. It comes from Center for Disease Control, Atlanta, who pretty much wrote the book on anthropometrics as far as I can tell. Apparently it has led the US government to revise its estimates of the number of deaths caused by being overweight from 365,000 deaths per annum to 25,000. I daren't post my BMI though, it would make Magraev seem positively svelte. From the newspaper account I read, a BMI of 25 is now thought to be optimal in terms of mortality risk - that used to be the upper end of the "normal" zone (20-25).

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    I don't think that BMI can be broadly applied to everybody. Ah_dut's ethnicity might play into this, and if we consider somatotypes, this becomes a near-futile exercise. Truly, the best way to tell if you are fit is by looking at yourself in the mirror.
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    "General fitness is the body's ability to cope with the everyday needs placed upon it." - Sorry, don't know the exact source.

    "Health is physical, mental and social well-being combined with an absence of illness and disease." - WHO, World Health Organisation

    There is the definition of "Health" and "Fitness" .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Appleton
    Um, I read that new research about the BMI today as well. It comes from Center for Disease Control, Atlanta, who pretty much wrote the book on anthropometrics as far as I can tell. Apparently it has led the US government to revise its estimates of the number of deaths caused by being overweight from 365,000 deaths per annum to 25,000. I daren't post my BMI though, it would make Magraev seem positively svelte. From the newspaper account I read, a BMI of 25 is now thought to be optimal in terms of mortality risk - that used to be the upper end of the "normal" zone (20-25).

    hmm... Dont you think that that study was publicated with the purpose of cutting down those statistics and make it appear that american overweight problem isnt that much of a problem?

    I´m in the 21 BMI now, and I have to cut down to 17-18 to be in shape...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster
    hmm... Dont you think that that study was publicated with the purpose of cutting down those statistics and make it appear that american overweight problem isnt that much of a problem?

    I´m in the 21 BMI now, and I have to cut down to 17-18 to be in shape...
    Nah, CDC Atlanta are the real deal. You know, helping Dustin Hoffman save the mankind from a deadly monkey virus in Outbreak etc.?

    Seriously, I have a great respect for them ever since I was doing postdoc research in Kenya in 1992, which involved weighing school kids. I needed to convert their weights into z-scores that standardised for age and heard CDC had made some software to do this easily. Hence I, a Brit alone in a backwater African university, wrote them a letter . A week or so later, they sent me the program on a floppy free of charge, along with a manual.

    As to your weight, I guess these things vary from person to person, but I heard a BMI of 20 was about the ideal for an athlete. When I was slipping below that in my younger days of working out in a gym, my instructor warned me not to lose any more weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Appleton
    Nah, CDC Atlanta are the real deal. You know, helping Dustin Hoffman save the mankind from a deadly monkey virus in Outbreak etc.?

    Seriously, I have a great respect for them ever since I was doing postdoc research in Kenya in 1992, which involved weighing school kids. I needed to convert their weights into z-scores that standardised for age and heard CDC had made some software to do this easily. Hence I, a Brit alone in a backwater African university, wrote them a letter . A week or so later, they sent me the program on a floppy free of charge, along with a manual.

    As to your weight, I guess these things vary from person to person, but I heard a BMI of 20 was about the ideal for an athlete. When I was slipping below that in my younger days of working out in a gym, my instructor warned me not to lose any more weight.

    Well, I dont know, but it sounds a bit suspicious to me. I didnt get any free software from them when I was in Kenya (much less on a floppy , Ah, those were the days... You could have a whole videogame on 2 floppies...), so I am a bit more sceptic about that figure...

    As of me, well, I need to make a lower weigth category, so I have to lose some additional fat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kongamato
    I don't think that BMI can be broadly applied to everybody. Ah_dut's ethnicity might play into this, and if we consider somatotypes, this becomes a near-futile exercise. Truly, the best way to tell if you are fit is by looking at yourself in the mirror.
    I think it's just build...my brother has a bmi of like 25-26and he's quite a lot taller than me (4 damn inches)

    Therefore, I am not sure whether BMI is a good test of health. There are loadsa people in my class and year that have a lower BMI than me (only just) but they are actually really unhealthy...low fitness, muscle mass etcetc and one too many chocolate bars ( I am sure they'll progress onto beer later.)

    As to your weight, I guess these things vary from person to person, but I heard a BMI of 20 was about the ideal for an athlete. When I was slipping below that in my younger days of working out in a gym, my instructor warned me not to lose any more weight.
    I really thinnk it depends on your frame. There are people my height (a measley 5'7'') that weigh 25-30% heavier than me that are a reasonable weight. I mean 60kg isn;t that heavy if you have a stocky build. 65kh is prolly the limit for my height before you take on the appearance of a ball

    Seriously though, losing weight is simply a matter of willpower, the easiest thing to say, the hardest thing to do. I have never had to lose weight in the 14 short years of my life though...

    Oh well, I'll enjoy the benefitsof youth while it lasts

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    bump

    I waited until the end of the week for an update. I'm down to 170.
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    Necro from 2005?

    I never asked for this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darion View Post
    I couldn't get some reasonable tips for weight loss. Just wondering that I have some of them and I'm acting upon
    but looking for new stuff.
    I'm 5'9'', 165lbs and 12% body fat.
    gain weight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darion View Post
    I couldn't get some reasonable tips for weight loss. Just wondering that I have some of them and I'm acting upon
    but looking for new stuff.
    I'm 5'9'', 165lbs and 12% body fat.
    Strike beat me to it, but unless you are a lass you shouldn't be losing any weight.
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