ok well thanx for all the help guys i will look into it and try to find a way to work around it. one other question about editing the camp map, in paintshop pro 7 in order to add new provices, i was using the paint brush tool to add. but the paint brush tool not only creates a small dot(for example with cities) but also changes the colour of the pixels around the one i am changing so i try to place a city with a one piexl dot and it changes that one pixel as well as the ones surrounding it, but not completly they are a combo of the 2 colours. why is this and is there a better way to create new provinces/cities/ports