Campaign Map

[knoddy]

thanx for the pencil tool hint it helped alot but now i have another question(lol im full of Q's today must have too much spare time) i have my own camp map edited but i keep getting an error message(when running with show_err) that tells me that my units i have placed are on invalid tiles. i cant just get rid of them because they r my generals and if i get rid of them the game wont run(no family members). i believe this has something to do with where my units r placed on the camp map at the start. but i dont know wot this is based on so please help!!! is it the x,y values in descr_strat.txt???

[Encaitar]

yep it's the x, y values in descr_strat. Basically what that error is saying is that some unit is placed on a tile that's impassable (e.g. mountain, river, sea, dense forest).

[Monkwarrior]

thanx for the pencil tool hint it helped alot but now i have another question(lol im full of Q's today must have too much spare time) i have my own camp map edited but i keep getting an error message(when running with show_err) that tells me that my units i have placed are on invalid tiles. i cant just get rid of them because they r my generals and if i get rid of them the game wont run(no family members). i believe this has something to do with where my units r placed on the camp map at the start. but i dont know wot this is based on so please help!!! is it the x,y values in descr_strat.txt???

Yes it is the x,y values. I don't know with paintshop pro, but with photoshop the scale in the y axis was inverse to that used in the game. That is you need to know the height of the map_regions, lets say 156 pixels. These pixels are numbered from 0 to 155. Thus the y value in descr_strat must be 155-y', with y' being the value given in photoshop.
When I had this kind of error message I looked at descr_ground_types file. There the position is about 2x,2y and I looked if the position was in an invalid ground (mountain, dense forest). If not, perhaps the problem is a river or the coast. Try then to move one or two pixels the unit.
I hope this is of help to you.
Cheers.

[knoddy]

ok well i fixed that problem with the invalid tile and worked my way through a couple of other weird errors and finnaly after much hardship my provincial campaign actually made it to the loading screen then promptly CTD lol i dont know y got no error message and i definitly deleted map.wrm or whateva it is so if there is any suggestions please help

[Monkwarrior]

This kind of errors are difficult to solve.
In my experience they are due to problems with the "central" files of the game, for example descr_model_battle or export_descr_units.
I usually get an old version and I try to modify it in the same way but step by step.
Sorry, but I cannot be of more help.

[knoddy]

hey hey got my own map workin so i was just wonderin if someone could answer a couple of questions for me.
1) Is there any way to turn the map so the dimensions are opposite anotherwards i want the width to become the height and the height to be come the width. does this make sense??? i can do it in photoshop by rotating clockwise/anticlockwise but the game CTD
2) Wot r the colours for the map_heights.tga ie i know black is like low land and i believe white is mountains is that it or r particular shades particular heights or wot???

[knoddy]

hey well im caught on a bit of a snag u see i downloaded duke johns campaign template and got it up and running. i changed the map_regions.tga to the map i wanted run the game and it worked fine no errors. i then tried to change the regions cos in the template all the regions on are on a thin strip of land on the side of the map and the rest of the map is ocean an one other giant land mass. but when i moved a region to the giant land mass, moved the only unit to that land mass and kept the same RGB colours i get a settlement on invalid tile (0,0) error message and the campaign wont run. i cannot figure out why this is giving me an error like this so i reverted back to my backup copies of wot they were before and im still getting this same error please help.

also can someone tell me how to, in adobe photoshop 7, amke the edges of my land smooth. ie when i load the map(and it works) there are points on the side of some of the land masses. any ideas. cheers

p.s. i have deleted that one that gets generated every time (cant remember wot it is called and it still gets error???