Announcing: Europa Barbarorum

[Divinus Arma]

given the appropriate government type chosen for that province

Please elaborate. We get to choose a government TYPE? If so, then HOLY S.

[Steppe Merc]

Not really. I'll let Khelvan explain...

[Divinus Arma]

Whomever. I look forward to it. I won't even speculate.

Regards

[Sarcasm]

Merc, man...I´m acking here!

What´s that thing called?

[khelvan]

Governments - each faction will have choices to make when taking over provinces. These choices reflect how the faction interacts with the people they have conquered, and in some instances the land and resources. For instance, the steppe people will have to choose between a nomadic or agricultural infrastructure, and this will affect the type of troops they can raise and the bonuses and such from the economy and people. The Celts will probably have a choice of four types of government - Directly controlled by a king (subjugated - homelands only), controlled by an installed noble (subjugated, different bonuses/penalties), controlled by an indigenous leader (client), or controlled by a religious leader (assimilated).

As you can see there will be considerable variety between factions. Furthermore, if there is some suggestion you have along these lines for individual factions, we are happy to consider it.

Ok, ok, I won't torture you anymore. It is a bricoli, and while it may look like it isn't very powerful, such devices were more powerful than an arrow and often used for killing mounts. You don't get a sense of scale with these pictures.

The production release will be a fully-automated install. I am not sure about the open beta yet. The size of the open beta will likely be in the neighborhood of 500MB.

I cannot currently forsee anything "sold," as that brings very real legal issues. We may offer a written manual for download. Certainly the mod will require documentation.

[Sarcasm]

Khelvan, you are a beautiful human-being.




What will be the difference between the closed BETA and the open BETA?

[Divinus Arma]

You folks are freaking geniuses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I cannot even believe this... Installed nobles? Client states? You are capable of making changes this drastic?

Wait... I think I may have grasped how you can pull this off. It's the religious buildings right? You guys must be converting those to manipulate each state!

YOU ARE FREAKING GENIUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Divinus Arma]

I still can't believe it...







FREAKING GENIUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant I tell you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Divinus Arma]

I have been reduced to a shell of a man. I am giddy. Giddy I tell you. Every fiber of my military bearing and personal dignity has fled from my body.

[Sarcasm]

Someone call the Paramedics......

[khelvan]

It is an abstract. I mean it is just a building that enables the building of other buildings, the recruitment of certain types of units, and certain bonuses or penalties. We can't change the UI or anything on a per-province basis. This really isn't a revolutionary concept. The nice thing about the building system is that it is one of the few things that we can really make adjustments to.

The beta test will be open. In the future we will have closed betas for new versions. But we figured that you guys would want to get your hands on what we've done so far. I guarantee that it will be better than vanilla RTW.

[Malorix]

i cant believe how close i was on the name..

[RedJack]

It is an abstract. I mean it is just a building that enables the building of other buildings, the recruitment of certain types of units, and certain bonuses or penalties. We can't change the UI or anything on a per-province basis. This really isn't a revolutionary concept. The nice thing about the building system is that it is one of the few things that we can really make adjustments to.

The beta test will be open. In the future we will have closed betas for new versions. But we figured that you guys would want to get your hands on what we've done so far. I guarantee that it will be better than vanilla RTW.

I am VERY interested! Two questions
1) How are you going to distribute it? 500 MB is a heck of a download.

2) How long have you guys been working on this? RTW is my first experience in playing modded games, so this is pretty mind blowing!

[WesW]

Governments - each faction will have choices to make when taking over provinces. These choices reflect how the faction interacts with the people they have conquered, and in some instances the land and resources. For instance, the steppe people will have to choose between a nomadic or agricultural infrastructure, and this will affect the type of troops they can raise and the bonuses and such from the economy and people. The Celts will probably have a choice of four types of government - Directly controlled by a king (subjugated - homelands only), controlled by an installed noble (subjugated, different bonuses/penalties), controlled by an indigenous leader (client), or controlled by a religious leader (assimilated).

As you can see there will be considerable variety between factions. Furthermore, if there is some suggestion you have along these lines for individual factions, we are happy to consider it.

Ok, ok, I won't torture you anymore. It is a bricoli, and while it may look like it isn't very powerful, such devices were more powerful than an arrow and often used for killing mounts. You don't get a sense of scale with these pictures.

The production release will be a fully-automated install. I am not sure about the open beta yet. The size of the open beta will likely be in the neighborhood of 500MB.

I cannot currently forsee anything "sold," as that brings very real legal issues. We may offer a written manual for download. Certainly the mod will require documentation.

If you do decide to charge for the mod, I want royalties. j/k

Concerning the bricoli, I wonder if you don't have the bolts oriented the wrong way. I mean, the lever won't hit any of the bolts at a right angle except the topmost one. Imagine hitting a nail with a hammer at the wrong angle and you'll understand what I am getting at here.
It would make more sense to me if the bolts were lined up horizontally, hit by a large head on the end of the lever, similar to the head on a golf driver. Launching a horizontal barrage would also seem to make more practical military sense as well.
Just trying to help.

[Dux Corvanus]

If you do decide to charge for the mod, I want royalties. j/k

Concerning the bricoli, I wonder if you don't have the bolts oriented the wrong way. I mean, the lever won't hit any of the bolts at a right angle except the topmost one. Imagine hitting a nail with a hammer at the wrong angle and you'll understand what I am getting at here.
It would make more sense to me if the bolts were lined up horizontally, hit by a large head on the end of the lever, similar to the head on a golf driver. Launching a horizontal barrage would also seem to make more practical military sense as well.
Just trying to help.

Yeah, the lever must end in a 'T' shape, firing simultaneously the bolts which should be alligned horizontally. Even if the angle was correct, in the actual machine, the lower ones would receive a significantly minor impulse, due to lesser inertia moment and speed of the low part of the lever. The upper the beat, the stronger the impulse, it's easy to see. Besides, the bolts should lay on some type of channeled support, to avoid flying without control once they have been beated.

[Latro]

Besides, the bolts should lay on some type of channeled support, to avoid flying without control once they have been beated.

Besides I think the beam would just smash the bolts to bits.

Another thing. Where does the torsion come from? The beam itself? What kind of wood would last more than one or two shots?

What is your source for this engine??

[eadingas]

The machine is supposed to be cheap, easy to make, simple to use. It's not supposed to be accurate, long-range, or long use. I think the beams could've been replaced easily, they were just wooden boards.
The source are some military history books with reconstruction pictures, and IIRC some celtic tales (though they don't give detailed info on construction)

[Skilfingr]

...and IIRC some celtic tales ...

[khelvan]

and IIRC some celtic tales

Eadingas has misspoken here. Celtic "tales" are no more used as sources for EB than any other recognized storytelling or mythological work. We have literary evidence from serious historians who write about times no further removed than, say, Livy did, and with corroborating evidence that is just as strong. The Celts did create religious myths and storytelling tales, but they also have serious histories. As always, any serious history is examined as closely as we would examine any other serious historian; recognizing their faults as we recognize the faults of writers such as Titus Livius, and also recognizing their strengths and what information was proved true through archaeological finds and such.

I am quite sure eadingas will be more careful with his choice of words in the future.