Best Unit in the game?

**Beefy** · 03-19-2005, 11:54

Personally its gotta be the Spartan Hoplites.

They are just as hard as coffin nails!

They will just stand their and not run away even when flaming pots are landing on them. Even when cavarly charged from the back they will keep going!

GO SPARTANS

**The Stranger** · 03-19-2005, 13:22

yep i'll go for the spartans too

**Kekvit Irae** · 03-19-2005, 13:24

Spartans are my vote for best infantry, but I still stand by my Gothic Cavalry

**katank** · 03-20-2005, 03:24

With the 1.2 phalanx fix, they are more deadly than ever. However, they still remain horribly vulnerable to missiles and die in droves when hit by archer fire.

I personally vote for the humble spear warband as best unit due to the low tech requirement and raw combat power derived for the cost. Also note that lack of a secondary means they always stay in phalanx.

**Wishazu** · 03-20-2005, 03:41

i say spartans too. i disagree with the arrows thing, whenever i use greek hoplite troops they only suffer from archer fire if it is coming from their unprotected rear, anywhere else and my casualties are allways negligable. however, regular skirmishers using pila/javelins etc. are far more effective against a hoplite phalanx.

**Kaldhore** · 03-20-2005, 04:56

I just did a test, custom battle 1v1
Huge Units
Spartan v Urban Cohort.

I did 4 tests

Long phalanx formation for Spartans
Short *Square* Phalanx
No Phalanx Formation
Phalanx till flanked then standard.

I played the spartans for each battle.
Urban Cohort won 3 out of 4 times, and even then the spartans were down to 25 men.

So although I'd like to agree that spartans are the best.....Looks like the Urban Cohort stands up pretty well.

**katank** · 03-20-2005, 22:16

Originally Posted by Wishazu

i say spartans too. i disagree with the arrows thing, whenever i use greek hoplite troops they only suffer from archer fire if it is coming from their unprotected rear, anywhere else and my casualties are allways negligable. however, regular skirmishers using pila/javelins etc. are far more effective against a hoplite phalanx.

This is not true for Spartans. Regular hoplites have about 7 armor compared to Spartan's 3. The Spartans do have 2 HP but with 2-3 regular archers focus firing on them, they get decimated before they even hit the battleline.

Besides, even if they are still standing, they are a lot less tough since often they survive with only one HP remaining and are no longer supermen.