How long will you wait?

[HarunTaiwan]

until after the expansion is out to buy it?

Express answers in time or patches.

I won't touch it until I see decent reviews in the forums.

[a_ver_est]

I am too much disappointed to buy an expansion, mostly with the CA post-sell support rather than with the game itself.

[Turbo]

until after the expansion is out to buy it?

Express answers in time or patches.

I won't touch it until I see decent reviews in the forums.

I won't touch it or consider it until the first patch is released. Even then I am unsure whether I am ever going to buy another CA product.

[LegolasII]

okay, every1 likes to complain bout the bugs and things that couldve been better in the game but i still think that RTW is one of my favorite games so im gonna buy the expansion right when it comes out, y wait for a patch cuz it will be fun neways then after the patch comes out it will seem better.

[Count Belisarius]

I will probably buy it almost immediately, if for no other reason than to see how it stacks up against the R:TR and/or EB mods. I love the TW series as a whole, and I play R:TW (or R:TR) as much as my wife will allow. NO game is ever perfect, and I have faith that CA will do better with the expasion and/or with their next effort. I tried going back to M:TW, but I missed the more complex strategic aspects of R:TW too much.

[professorspatula]

I'll probably buy it, but feel like a scab - the kind of person during a work strike who crosses the picket line and goes back to work, regardless of the strike conditions. RTW was released in a very poor state. The patch improved things a little, but CA and Activision haven't done a great deal on the public relations things to make up for it. That said, I applaud those at CA who have actually tried to help the community; some of them obviously care. I still love RTW, although only because I've spent so many hours modding it add some kind of fun factor. If the expansion adds enough, then I'll want to get it.

[FURRY_BOOTS]

i'll buy it straight away, thats why im hanging around in the back of my mind i know, CA can redeem themselves, but i'll not hold my breath, but if its not a step forward, then im gone like a cool breeze

[Red Harvest]

Unless I see rave reviews *here* and few substantial bugs, I won't be in any hurry to buy. I'll be waiting for the bargain bin pricing. If the patches or mods don't get it into a workable enough state, I'll pass altogether.

At this point, I'm disappointed enough in the lack of proper support for RTW that I am of the opinion that the XPack should be free.

[Mikeus Caesar]

I agree with Professor Spatula - i'll get it, but i would feel like a scab for getting it.

P.S Red Harvest, your siggy says it all!! lol

[R3dD0g]

Unless this forum is raving over how good it it, I won't buy it.

I've quit playing R:TW and gone back to one of the best games ever built SMAC.

I'll keep monitoring this forum, but CA will unlikely see any of my money soon.

[hrvojej]

IF I buy it, I'll buy it when all of the following statements are true:

1) A few weeks have passed since the release of the XP itself/a patch to the XP
2) I don't see any major bugs being discussed here for the duration of those weeks
3) It's priced at the budget level at most

No more bona fide purchases at full price.

[Shambles]

I will not buy any expantions for this game as that would mean id need to reinstall it,
And it just wastes space on my hard disk as it sux to much to play.

I have expressed my feelings in other posts and i will reitterate this

If CA make a nother update for the game,
And that sux as well
I will smash my RTW cd's in to pieces So I will never be tempted to Reinstall it Ever again

[Craterus]

Instead of smashing it to pieces, you could sell it or give it as a gift to someone who might enjoy the game more than you did.

Regarding expansions, I would probably buy it after hearing some positive reviews and finding out exactly what's improved and wether an expansion is worth buying.

[SpencerH]

I wont "buy it" unless all major RTW bugs are fixed first .

[BeeSting]

Unless it promises substantial AI development, I wouldn't buy it. Or it would just be another game where you are in for an easy but long drawn out process of conquering the world. I need challenge, darn it!

[BeeSting]

I wont "buy it" unless all major RTW bugs are fixed first .

I wonder what the patch policy for the expansion would be?

[SpencerH]

I wonder what the patch policy for the expansion would be?

Probably no better than for RTW. AFAIK CA has historically tried to fix all problems in one or two mega-patches and refuse to do more. That worked reasonably well for the previous incarnations but I dont think that policy will work for a game this new, this complex, and with this many bugs.

[Selway]

I'm not exactly happy with the AI or the bugs. However, I love this game still and I continue to play it to this day. I will buy it as soon as it comes out.

[Uesugi Kenshin]

I will buy it within weeks of me hearing about it.

[Sol Invictus]

I will almost certainly get it but not on the day of release. I need to read some feedback first. RTW; while a great game; is the last game I will ever buy as soon as it hits the shelves.

[Quietus]

It depends on the content of the X-pack.

1) Mini-Campaign Map? (not again... )
2) Unit-speed and Kill-rate sliders. (Je'Rome G said he'll mention it to the others).
3) 3D Naval Battles? (c'mon CA, surprise us!)
4) BIGGER Battle Map? (eliminate the red-line already).
5) Bugs fixed? (I'm pretty IF they neglect to release a patch 1.3 those will be remedied).

Those are the main sticking points I can think of from the top of my head.

[L`zard]

Prolly buy it, tho not neccesarily right away.

I'm only in it for the mods anyway (never have bothered to finish a vanilla game excepting Shogun).

Do know that somewhere along the time-line the modding community will embrace whatever changes have been made, so I'll need the expansion one way or the other, lol. By embrace, I mean that 'everything' gets used one way or the other, and rumors about some files useful to modders being included in the expansion are enough to sway ME, eh?

All power to the Modders!

[pyj99]

The day it goes out...

While RTW may be buggy as hell, it is still a game with no equivalent with its blend of strategy and tactics.

I will shamelessly takes all that is offered to me...


PYJ99

[Shambles]

The day it goes out...

While RTW may be buggy as hell, it is still a game with no equivalent with its blend of strategy and tactics.

I will shamelessly takes all that is offered to me...


PYJ99

You do know about STW and MTW dont you ?, id say there More than Equivelent To RTW

[Benny Moore]

I will only buy it if several conditions are met. First of all, the major bugs in the current version must be fixed in a free patch, so that people who do not care for the expansion can still have a working game. Secondly, the expansion must not introduce any new major bugs, or if this is the case, this must be patched. Thirdly, I have to hear some pretty impressive reviews on this forum. Then I'll consider it. Otherwise, it's just not happening.

Would someone start a poll? I'm very curious as to just what the numbers are. Numbers can go a long way toward convincing companies.

[pyj99]

@Shambles

I own and played STW & MTW, I just want more and more and more...


PYJ99

[a_ver_est]

I love RTW, and I don't think it's unplayable, but since it has been released it has had some major bugs, I can understand it because no one can code without making any mistake. But IMHO CA has to make an effort to correct them.

We have bought an expensive game (At least for me) and we want it to work out as it is expected. If it has problems CA should correct them !

The worst thing is the current situation has been lived before, MTW/VI had a major bug (56 year dead) detected a few time later since it has been released and the patch was only released after heavy community pressure and some month later.

To be honest I don't feel CA is doing they best effort to make costumers happy. They has told us "no new patches are going to be released".

Sorry ??? Patches have to be released at least meanwhile there are major bugs.
You cannot decide if you are going to release more patchs or not only thinking in economical cost to code them.

Finally I am not going to buy an expansion.

[screwtype]

First I'll read the reviews, and then I'll wait for the typical fanboy wave to pass ("Oh boy I just got the XP and this has got to be the best game ever. THANK YOU extremely much CA!!! PS Can't wait to actually install it on my hard drive!") and see what the more thoughtful contributors have to say.

[Servius]

I'd prefer to wait until it's reviewed by some websites and some respected veterans on the org. But if they take too long to do so (too long = 2 weeks), I may just buy it and test it myself, especially if it's only like $20 or something.

Honestly, I am in the kinda-pissed-at-CA camp b/c I still enjoy MTW more than RTW, but if the patch significantly improves areas of RTW that I don't like, and/or add in really fun new stuff, it'll probably be worth getting, even if it introduces new bugs.

So much of this is relative.
If bugs = experience-crippling: No
If bugs < experience-crippling: Probably
If cost > improved enjoyment: No
If cost < improved enjoyment: Yes
etc.

I hope the patch...
-SIGNIFICANTLY improves battlefield AI (esp. with cavalry)
-makes RTW battle maps more like MTW maps, i.e. more than one hill and forest
-adds ability to customize shield icons, unit colors, and name them with an easy-to-use ingame interface
-SIGNIFICANTLY improves unit pathing in cities
-Brings back the MTW Alt+click unit-facing feature. Rotating units is too inaccurate
-reduces the negative modifiers for Generals who don't move during turns (for defense is important too!)
-reduces the negative modifiers for Governors when you have too much money (Gods forbid)
-make the wonder bonuses permanent

Sorry, got a bit off topic, but if the above are in the xpac, I'll likely get it.

[Paul Peru]

Unless I see rave reviews *here* and few substantial bugs, I won't be in any hurry to buy. I'll be waiting for the bargain bin pricing.

My thoughts exactly.
If I see rave reviews *here* I'm out the door, card in hand, hailing a cab.