Improved generals bodyguards

[Viking]

Have anyone ever got improved generals bodyguards when upgrading a settlement to the highest level?
I have upgraded settlements to huge cities with factions like Julii, Carthage The Seleucid Empire and Parthia, but yet i have seen nothing to improved bodyguards.
I guess the bodyguards of Parthia would have been very useful in battles if they were upgraded to cataphracts, as those you see when playing a custom battle.

[drone]

What version are you running?

[cunctator]

With patch 1.2 every faction got their improved generals bodyguard after the marian reforms.

[Dutch_guy]

it works perfectly well in version 1.2... you updated your version already ?

damn beat me to it Cunctator

[Viking]

I`m still running ver 1.0, so that`s probably why i`ve never got them.
I have a dial-up connection, so i haven`t bothered downloading ver 1.2 yet.

[derF]

I started a game with 1.1 and am still continuing it using the 1.2 patch and i still have no improved bodyguards.

[drone]

Some factions are missing the upgraded bodyguards in 1.2. They added a tag in the unit files to designate updated bodyguards, but forgot some ("unplayable" factions I think).

Part of the discussion here:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=44097

EDIT - long thread, gist is Scythia, Parthia and Thrace

[player1]

Actually, it's just Pontus and Scythia.
They have them in custom battle, but not in campaign (bug).

Brits have no upgarded general netiher in custom battale, nor campaign (not a bug, but a feature).


As for Thrace it does have upgraded bodyguard, but it has same stats as the unupgraded one (feature or bug, decide yourself).

[tai4ji2x]

I started a game with 1.1 and am still continuing it using the 1.2 patch and i still have no improved bodyguards.

if the marian reforms have already occured in your 1.1 game, then patching to 1.2 won't help upgrade your generals. you will have to load a game from that campaign that took place BEFORE you got your marian reforms.

[Red Harvest]

I`m still running ver 1.0, so that`s probably why i`ve never got them.
I have a dial-up connection, so i haven`t bothered downloading ver 1.2 yet.

You might want to try asking a friend with broadband to download the patch and burn you a CD.

Dial up is unmanageable when patches get this big. However, some download managers might allow you to snag over a few nights, etc.

[player1]

Download managers are must.
As well as night time downloading.

I think you can take 50MB for one night, so it's not so bad.

Try downloading 150MB patches I've seen.


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[Viking]

Now i have downloaded and installed the 1.2 patch succsessfully, and it`s almost like a new game!

But I note that in 1.2 the improved bodyguards will come first after the marius event. But what i you destroy all the roman factions before the marius event has occurred. Will they then come?

[The Stranger]

Actually, it's just Pontus and Scythia.
They have them in custom battle, but not in campaign (bug).

Brits have no upgarded general netiher in custom battale, nor campaign (not a bug, but a feature).


As for Thrace it does have upgraded bodyguard, but it has same stats as the unupgraded one (feature or bug, decide yourself).

no bug and no feature, the just forgot to change it

[The Stranger]

Now i have downloaded and installed the 1.2 patch succsessfully, and it`s almost like a new game!

But I note that in 1.2 the improved bodyguards will come first after the marius event. But what i you destroy all the roman factions before the marius event has occurred. Will they then come?

i think you have a point there, if it's true CA really screwed this one too

[Dutch_guy]

I think other factions other than the Romans just need to build the highest goverment building to get the upgraded bodygaurd unit's.
seems a bit unlogical to actually wait till after 220 to even get a chance to get the upgraded bodyguard

[tai4ji2x]

no, it does seem to be tied to the reforms. i haven't heard any reports that say otherwise. indeed if the romans are wiped out before, i think it's true that the bodyguards will never upgrade

[Folcumbane]

I have once get those improved generals bodyguards.. when I was playing Parthia. It was a sad moment when I had to use heavy cavalry instead of skirmisher cavalry.

[Craterus]

My general is still accompanied by chariot archers but I know there's such thing as Egyptian general...

Why don't I have that unit? The Romans have had their reforms because I took on a Scipii army with loads of Urban Cohort and Legionary Cohort...

[Viking]

I think other factions other than the Romans just need to build the highest goverment building to get the upgraded bodygaurd unit's.
seems a bit unlogical to actually wait till after 220 to even get a chance to get the upgraded bodyguard

After you have installed 1.2, the level of the settlement doesn`t count anymore, you´ll have to wait to the marius event regardless of faction to get the upgraded bodyguards.

It does at least say so in the 1.2 readme file..