General WoT discussion

[Renly]

My covers were torn to hell. My EotW split in two.

[pezhetairoi]

Ah, back to the nick thing, my siggy are quotes from Oscar Wilde. We're talking -real- literature here, not fantasy ;-) And...well. Maybe it'll be something like Rand stands on the steps of Shayol Ghul in Book 11, and screams 'NOOOOOOO' as the lava in the volcano bubbles 'I AM YOUR FATHER.' XD

[The_678]

What's this about "new" black books with new covers? I've read the series twice (I can't help myself it's too good) but have to buy any of the books. I'm kinda in a reading lull right now and was thinking of reading WoT again. If the book covers are all new and special it might intice me a bit more to actually buy them. A few months ago I decided to actually buy books instead of borrow/library. BTW this is my favourite book/series and I really hope this mod turns out good and finishes.

[Renly]

If you're looking for something new to start, try A Song of Ice and Fire by George R.R. Martin. It's brillant, similar yet strikingly different from Jordan's fantasy.

[Abokasee]

SPOILER ALRET HIGH LIGHT TO READ!

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the nazis were nice people they made panzers pink and return to castle wolfeinsten would exsisted

[Gurkhal]

Sorry for asking, but what does ^'s message have to do with the Wheel of Time?

[The_678]

^ I haven't the slightest idea.....

I've heard the A Song of Ice and Fire isn't yet though. Is that true? I have heard from many people to read that series and I do plan on reading sometime, but preferably after it's finished because I hate reading an unfinished series. (except of course WoT....when new books come out I have an excuse to re-read the series)

[Ldvs]

A Song of Ice and Fire series isn't fnished yet. I think Martin plans on writting two more volumes after this one, so you see it's a lot "shorter" than WoT
It's truly the best series I've read so far (WoT isn't far behind but there's less suspense). You never know what to expect next because all the characters are vulnerable (they may die at the end of a chapter), the plots are complex and the storyline is just excellent. Another good point for Martin is that he describes only what is necessary and won't write half a page just to tell you how low a princess neckline is or fully detail a gown which you don't care about. In short, this is a must-buy

[Myrddraal]

I think that was spam Abokasee, not only is it against the forum rules, but your doing it in my forumn. Don't...

[soibean]

A song of ice and fire? ive heard of it but if everyone agrees that it is as good or better than WOT then I'd like to give it a go. How many books are in the series currently?

[Renly]

Tres. Numero cuatro comes out in June.

[Ldvs]

A song of ice and fire? ive heard of it but if everyone agrees that it is as good or better than WOT then I'd like to give it a go. How many books are in the series currently?

Here's Martin official website: http://georgerrmartin.com/
The number of books depends on where you buy them. I bought the UK version so there were four books:
- Book one: A game of thrones
- Book two: A clash of kings
- Book three, often split in two: A storm of swords

Beware, though. It's sometimes truly cruel, so if you only like stories where the good guy always win in the end, this series isn't for you.

[soibean]

naa I get sick of the good guy always winning, unless its in some clever way that I wouldn't have thought of. that is one of the reasons I like WOT, people you wouldn't expect are always disappearing. Thanks for the book count and names.

[Orb]

I must say that having immortal, omnipotent, deathproof heroes is irritating. The ASOIAF series sounds good. I might try it.

[pezhetairoi]

lol, reminder, reminder! This is WoT discussion, it's becoming GRRMartin discussion... beware! beware! :-P The new black covers make the WoT books look sleeker and more sophisticated. They also look less painful, since Darrell K Sweet's sour-looking work is eliminated from the covers and replaced by the simple Wheel and Snake logo. Definitely more worth buying than the original design. I regret buying my WoT series so early because now I've got to complete my series with the same bad decor.

[TurnLeft]

Heh, I cant understand why they kept letting him do covers... he is the master of misproportion. The WOT RPG books have some better art in them which helps to fix that awful Loial pic on The Dragon Reborn.

The best ones (I believe) are Eye of the World and Path of Daggers.

[soibean]

I never really had a problem with the illustrations... they were more of something to glance at so I had a general idea what a person looked like before I got caught up in the story and completely forgot how he wanted everyone to look.

In the newer versions of the books, was anything changed story wise? Maybe a touch up here and there? or was it just a cover change because the world hates this guy's drawings.

Final thing, hows the mod coming along?

[Ldvs]

Yes the illustrations aren't really that great a bother. He's not bad at drawing, it's just that his illustrations have nothing to do with the books (CoS has to be the worst, in my opinion ).
As for the mod, Myrddraal was temporarly sacked by his master and won't return until he's able to spell his name correctly: Shaidar Haran

[Myrddraal]

The mod is on the backburner for a couple of weeks, after that, we'll be working on releasing a demo in the form of some historical battle(s).

[The_678]

sweet a demo. I remember when you released that Aes Sedai unit way back and have been excited about the game since. Hopefully there will be some Ashaman in the demo (hint.hint.)

[pezhetairoi]

oooh let there be, let there be. Wait...there are RPG books? Holy cow. This purist here has been stuck on the guides and the original series.

[Gurkhal]

Nice that you will release a demo, won't have to wait THAT terrible long.

[Ldvs]

I was wondering who were your least favorite characters in the series. I mean, not just the fact they're the good or the bad guys, but rather their behaviour, their thoughts, etc...

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Bear in my I'm reading the seventh book so the characters may change their behaviour later though I doubt it.
In my opinion, the Trakand family is plagued, I can't bear neither Elayne nor Gawyn.

Elayne because she's too haughty and thinks everyone must do what she says, and also because she keeps saying "Rand's mine, I'll bond him, he's mine and he'll have to obey..." (at least she'll succeed in bonding him...).

I dislike Gawyn too. He's gullible (he believes blindly the rumors saying Rand killed his mother) and can hardly comes up with something clever. He also keeps saying he'll kill Rand when Rand could actually blows up his head like a rotten melon if he even tried to...

So what are yours?

[soibean]

I agree with you there, it should be common sense to investigate a rumor instead of following it blindly. The same with Elayne. She needs some lessons in seducing and living with men, get rid of the leash.

[Renly]

I think Jordan should pull a George R.R Martin and do something expected. LET Gawyn (sp?) try to kill Rand, and let Rand blow his head to pieces. That would be funny. Mat's gotta be my favortite character, least has to be Egwene, her chapters are soooo boring....

[Ldvs]

I think Jordan should pull a George R.R Martin and do something expected. LET Gawyn (sp?) try to kill Rand, and let Rand blow his head to pieces. That would be funny.

Yes, some cruelty would bring good changes, especially when we could get rid of half-witted characters like him You're right, Egwene's chapters are hardly interesting although I think they're better once she accedes to a higher position in the hierarchy.

[Steppe Merc]

I like Elayne a lot better than Egwene, though I think Min is the coolest. Gawyn is sort of annoying, and really dumb for following any of the Aes Sedai, much less the Tower ones.

[Gurkhal]

Can't really think there is anyone that I really dislike, I don't have much love with Elayne or the girl that married Lan (can't spell her name )

But when I think about them, they just got character, and so I can't say that I don't like any of them.

[soibean]

If you're looking for something new to start, try A Song of Ice and Fire by George R.R. Martin. It's brillant, similar yet strikingly different from Jordan's fantasy.

I know we said we would stop talking about this but on a final note:
I just got the first 3 and my god, that is an amazing series. I never expected half of that to happen and with all the plot twists... it's good. It's up there with WoT now in my humble opinion, although WoT has me in suspense over the next book.

[NaeBlis]

Well, after about 6 months, I post again...The Return of Naeblis! (:D)

Regarding A Song of Ice and Fire, i tried to get a mod started for that when RTW initially came out, didn't get much support, but if this team is looking for a challenge after WoT, well...i'd say ASoIaF is a perfect adaptation for RTW , as it is basically a fantasy political book, and since Martin generally explains the layout of the grounds of a battle, losses, strategy etc, it'd wouldn't be too hard to create custom battles for it.