CA's definite answer on the Loadgame "issue"

**Midnight** · 04-04-2005, 19:35

Well, it's been a while since I loaded RTW. From the outset, one of my biggest complaints was that the map never seemed to change. Factions stayed in just about the same places, very different from the dynamism present in MTW. Now I know this was a 'feature'. A pretty awful one, if you ask me.

I'm not one of those people who can sit for marathon gaming sessions. I also like to take command of all major battles (ie where I don't massively outnumber the enemy so it's not even a contest), so the number of turns played on any given day isn't that great. At the end, a save. I'd imagine most people work this way - so, given that, why on earth was such a 'feature' included? I'm quite certain MTW didn't suffer from the same problem...

It would be brilliant if CA actually announced they were going to fix this in the x-pack (it should be done anyway, IMO, but in an x-pack's better than nothing). For goodness sake, CA, put the dynamism and fluidity of map control present in MTW in RTW!

**Shambles** · 04-04-2005, 19:39

just stop playing it.
its not that good any way, i dont Like 98% of the game,
and the 2% i actualy like is the Idea behind it,

I prefer shogun :)

**player1** · 04-04-2005, 20:09

Originally Posted by Shambles

just stop playing it.
its not that good any way, i dont Like 98% of the game,
and the 2% i actualy like is the Idea behind it,

Well, I liked it 98%, but awarenesss of this bug pretty ruined RtW for me.

**Shambles** · 04-04-2005, 20:22

Dont get me wrong RTW had some real potential.

but i really dont like the feel of the game,
Or the layout of the campaign map and moovment with in it,
(I really love the way shogun did it)

I play shogun with 120 men in a Unit, So when i see A few units of hostiles aproaching In Shogun, Im afraid.
But in rome TW I dont feel any threat from any one apart from eliphants,

P.s
I used to like watching eliphants throwing My units in the air, but decided that this was a poor substitute for a decent game design.

Honestly though I love games of all kinds,
And Shogun Is 1 of my Very favs,
But where as Rome may be appealing to me, 1st thing i decide to play it again,
I get dissapointed and go to play Shogun.

But im off topic here,

So il Stop =)

ShambleS

**Marcus Maxentius** · 04-04-2005, 20:26

Who knows, maybe they really screwed up when they were figuring out how different groups people play the game. Maybe they thought only inexperienced newbies save and reload multiple times and have one turn sessions because they don't know how everything works yet. They keep losing battles or money and want to restart. So what they thought is hey let's mess with the AI so these people who've obviously never played a game like this before a break to catch up?

That of course would be wrong since both veterans and beginners equally have other priorities and attention span lengths.

**Browning** · 04-04-2005, 21:14

If what they think is what they say, then they haven't read what we posted on that issue and haven't tested. In this case they are a bunch of liars and loosers.

If they think one thing and say another one, they are a bunch of liars and loosers.

That's it for my purchases of CA products.

Sorry I just had to vent off.

**Belenus** · 04-04-2005, 21:38

I haven't posted much since I was here but...I've now truly lost all hope of getting back into RTW soon. Like I said in another post if I want to play against static A.I I might as well play Battle of Middle Earth or Kingdoms Under Fire.

**Red Harvest** · 04-04-2005, 21:51

Disgraceful. A game buster problem, being denied as a bug and instead treated as a feature.

Do you think CA has hired the ex-Iraqi Information Minister to handle bug reports?

**Turbo** · 04-04-2005, 21:48

Complaining about this isn't going to change anything. We need to fight back by using public opinion to force a change in CA. This can be done by emailing review sites and computer magazines (CGW etc.) and complaining about the poor support we the users are getting from CA.

An expansion to RTW is going to be as poorly supported as RTW is today if things don't change.

**player1** · 04-04-2005, 21:59

Originally Posted by Turbo

Complaining about this isn't going to change anything. We need to fight back by using public opinion to force a change in CA. This can be done by emailing review sites and computer magazines (CGW etc.) and complaining about the poor support we the users are getting from CA.

An expansion to RTW is going to be as poorly supported as RTW is today if things don't change.

Let's start with forum protest idea I proposed earlier?

**starkhorn** · 04-04-2005, 19:39

Originally Posted by Midnight

It would be brilliant if CA actually announced they were going to fix this in the x-pack (it should be done anyway, IMO, but in an x-pack's better than nothing). For goodness sake, CA, put the dynamism and fluidity of map control present in MTW in RTW!

No don't be silly, this is a feature not a bug. THey can only fix bugs, not planned "features".

Cheers
Starkhorn

**Old Celt** · 04-04-2005, 19:43

Oh, I'm pretty sure they will fix, .. er.. change that bug, I mean feature for the expansion pack, for the simple reason that they will be getting paid for it. No money in hot fixes. And apparently no guts over at SEGA to demand better for us.