Post here if you're unhappy with CA support

[Pericles]

In a game as complex as RTW, one or even two patches will never be enough to fix bugs, especially one that is obvious such as the load/save game bug.

The problem with the load/save game bug means that it will be present in all the mods that are currently being developed for RTW.

What will this do to modding for RTW now?

Should modders return to MTW?

[Rubber Ducky]

I too am one very unhappy with CA support, especially the long silence and the latest response. "It's a FEATURE, not a bug!" Hah I have to admit that's a good one. Very clever in fact. Dodge the problem and its solved. Reminds me of the pointy hair boss in Dilbert. We should have seen it coming

Now since now they call it a "feature", that means the crappy AI not expanding must be a feature! CA must have thought this is what we all want in the first place and *purposely* make the AI the way it is. In that case, I will not even consider buying another CA game in the future, because CA thought we like dumb games or whatever. I urge you all to do the same! CA just said it is a feature and NOT a bug, it tells a lot what kind of games they will make in the future.

[Pode]

You wouldn't know it from the title, but the Your Homework for Today thread actually contains a very good idea on this issue IMHO. Post a review of RTW on Amazon, now that you know about the load bug and CA's response to it. Maybe CA marketing will start to wonder why the average rating for their product took a nosedive and exert pressure on the devs to actually run the tests we asked for and see the bug for themselves.

[Shambles]

I always rate the game 3/10 on every site i get the option to rate the game,

I think CA and Activision Suck,
And i Always hated game spy since they wiped out Mplayer.
Im also agrivated at EA but there ya go.
If it wasnt for these ppl id have nothing to complain about.

ShambleS

[Hannibal Barcode]

Julius Nepos is quite right: Game companies only get away with releasing unfinished products because indiscriminate consumers buy them. This won't change any time soon, so the best thing we can do is chill out and sit on the sidelines when the next GOTTAGETIT!!! product comes out. If it survives examination by the eager involuntary beta testers, then fine, let's buy it. If not, well, there's always the next prospect. Meanwhile there are plenty of other, better games to play. And in the unlikely event we temporarily run out of good games, as a last resort we can always spend some time with the spouse and kids.

On a more personal note, I'd like to thank all the involuntary RTW beta testers for saving me considerable $, time, frustration, and disappointment on a game I was eagerly anticipating. I hope they draw some consolation from the knowledge that their sacrifices have not been in vain.

[slackker]

You wouldn't know it from the title, but the Your Homework for Today thread actually contains a very good idea on this issue IMHO. Post a review of RTW on Amazon, now that you know about the load bug and CA's response to it. Maybe CA marketing will start to wonder why the average rating for their product took a nosedive and exert pressure on the devs to actually run the tests we asked for and see the bug for themselves.

point is, would they even check the user reviews at amazon? they don't even care abt us at .com or here...a FANSITE let alone amazon.
They have no PR deparment so would they even know abt amazon user reviews?
all i say, life goes on, games dissapoint and this is just one of many. Greener pastures ahead but it does not lie with CA based on recent events...

[Attalus]

[Rubber Ducky]

Guys now I know why they included this "feature"! Whenever we decided to lay siege to the CA building, they would just hit reload and we're gone!

[danimal]

The directors of CA should grow some balls and sack some of the idiots responsible for

a/ Mismanaging the project so that its initial release was below an acceptable standard

b/ Mismanaging the QA on both initial and patch release so that it was below an acceptable standard

c/ Deciding that remaining bugs should be fixed in an expansion pack so we have to pay £20 more is acceptable

d/ This absolute crappy nonsense and propaganda fest we are being fed currently about 'its a feature' and 'there is no bug'. Has CA been bought out by a political part cos thats how they are acting.

Grow some balls CA. If i was responsible for these shortfalls i would expect the sack, hold my hands up and say "sorry guys I f**ked up" burt there contined behaviour is an insult to all who have ever supported TW. GGGGGRRRRRR

How about a public apology or at least some more conversation in the forums like 'the good old days'. They would only gain respect from that.

[marcusbrutus]

Maybe... just maybe all the bugs will be fixed in the XP due out later this year. Just been on the .com forums and Keii found this:

Search 'total war' in following site :
---- www.gamestop.com ----

The price is $35... OK...

[Cendre]

MODERATOR ...I'm not happy with this forum being used for a campaign to artificially lower the games rating on Amazon. Thread closed, as, for now will anymore started with this intention.

I don't want to start a thread about that, but what's artificial about informing customers of severe flaws in a software, I don't have an Amazon account but if I was to write a review I would certainly not give a good mark for the game in it's current form...

[Puzz3D]

Any strategy gamer who expects to be able to continue a saved campaign and have that campaign continue as though they were playing continuously better not buy anymore CA products. CA have now officially admitted that they don't design their games that way.

[Dyonisius]

I am disappointed, with the lack of support from CA

It shore is a promising game but they need to make us feel part of it.

Maybe CA will only listen again, when they need the marketing and our money for a next expansion.

[AquaLurker]

I have to admitt, the game RTW is good and like most games, it has bugs both major and minor ones.

What's bad about it...CA customer support. They are unwilling to make more patches to fix them with their 1-2 patch only policy, even after the patch they made has creates new minor bugs, even though some can be fixed by modders, is it the right way to allow the customers to fix their products???

Now who wouldn't be pissed?

And the load save bug...to be honest guys, I am playing 1.2 but I too have experienced this problem where a city current under siege by the AI, suddenly drop their siege after a load game. Though it did occur sometimes but I also had experienced the AI continuing the siege after I load up the game. I had also experience a siege being discontinued after the AI has besieged it for sometime without invoking the load save.

From what CA had explained regading the load/save "bug", I'm beginning to feel that all this make some sense(though I am still a little skeptical). But I too feel that some players may to have blown up the issue and gathered a mob of mindless doomsayers behind them lol. I guess I am going to be flamed by the people for this statement but what the hack/

Fair enough, CA is terrible in customer support and that makes it harder for them to convinced the people.

[Marcus Maxentius]

Perhaps next time CA will put some kind of elastic clause in about how many patches to have.

[Marcus Maxentius]

[QUOTE=AquaLurker]I guess I am going to be flamed by the people for this statement but what the hack/

People are acting like CA is a used car salesmen who sold them a car with no wheels.

[thelordskinner]

Can onwe of yous tell me how to contact one of them?

[HarunTaiwan]

Maybe they should have offered us the used car price.

I thought I was buying a new mercedes benz.

Now I'm told they won't fix the odometer that resets each time you start the car, and yeah, some guy named Player 1 has a hobby and he'll fix your fan belt that keeps making noise.

If the load/save bug is not a bug, than why the protectorate problem?

And if it's true that the AI thinks better after save and load, then should we do that every turn? But that supposedly leads to NO changing of territory.

Just fix it with XP which I hope they will do. Or, if they want players to catch all the bugs and fix them, make the game open source.

[Benny Moore]

By the way, I'd like to warn all fellow Amazon reviewers that some unscrupulous individual - no doubt a Creative Assembly lackey - is going down the list of reviewers at Amazon and giving us bad ratings.

[steve]

i wont be buying the expanison or any future CA games unless they change. I have wasted so much time trying to get RTW to a decent standard that its a joke i paid 50$ for it. Its a good game but not worth the furstration it causes. As of now i have stopped playing RTW and wont start doing so again untill some more bad ass mods come out or CA gets their shit together.

[Benny Moore]

The lackey has exposed himself, calling himself Tom the Magnificent, and has made a review containing at least one lie at Amazon in an attempt to counter the campaign.

[Marcus Maxentius]

It makes sense to me. I never really agreed with that Amazon thing. Pretty immature if you ask me. Doesn't have to be a CA "lackey" as you call him/her. Amazon wants to make some money too.

[slackker]

It will never end, i say just do ur part and move on. just as in the other thread, juz don't buy their games when they don't deserve our cash and time. It might be a die hard CA fan or CA itself, we don't know but don't get worked up over it, juz move on. Concentrate your efforts on better responses
better games or other parts of your life that we once neglected when we 1st played this game.

[Benny Moore]

I don't see any reason to lie, especially since none of the reviewers have lied or even made a half-truth.

I request that everyone who embarks upon this campaign also report Tom the Manificent's review and also rate it badly. If enough people report it and rate it badly, they will look into it and may even remove it.

In addition, one of the future reviewers needs to point out that his review contains a lie.

That said, there are indeed some bugs in the artificial intelligence of the game, but frankly there isn't a game in the real-time strategy genre that doesn't have probelems with the AI, especially 5 months after its release. As long as you're a rational person and not whipped up into a frenzy like the aforementioned people are, you will be able to overlook the bugs in the AI. They're not as noticeable as they would have you think."

[Benny Moore]

Rather, his review contains two lies.

Supposedly their exceedingly poorly-thought out objective is to pressure the Creative Assembly into fixing the bug by, in effect, misleading prospective buyers.

The only misleading I see is on his part and on Creative's Assembly's part.

[Catiline]

Neither of those things are lies Qviuntvs, you just don't agree with his opinion, there is a big difference. I have stated before threads abotu this campaign wiill not be supported on this forum. Thread closed.