Quote Originally Posted by drisos
- But try to be more - what is the word for this - careful, in what you say. Check your first post, and see what you said to Togakure. I see somethings that are rather rude, while I happen to think that he would defeat you in an MP battle.
Sure thing. Sure thing, indeed. He would. But...

You are missing some point now.

Togakure presented this problem for ANY guy around with quite definite message - "Try to best me in stated conditions".
Then - when a lot of guys tried and failed/reached goal, he presented his "solution" of created by HIM problem.
Alas, his "solution" is quite non-satisfactory - I'm afraid, - like idea to drop taxes in Autumn to 75% or making Castle in Echigo.
Right answers is - drop taxes immediately, then in Autumn of 1530 when you will raise tax-level to 125% you will get 130% of Loyalty in freshly taken Hitachi - trust me (yep it will drop in next season to 93% in worst case scenario + you will get some Ashi Rebels if you'll get disatrous year with -50% of harvest, but total ecomical result will be better then in case of dropping to 75% of taxvalue.
Right answer is - Echigo hasn't Iron and you MUST spend as much koku on Silver Mine as possible - at once - for protecting yourself from bad harvesting.
He proposed to give Hojo a chance to reshape its army, but big idea is - if you repel opponent forces from some province - they will get out in chancy manner. Then immediate attack on Shimotsuke after getting Shimosa will DIVIDE and break apart Hojo ranks immediately. Then you will be able to crush them one-by one - not whole batch in Musashi bridge battle - like in Toga situation.

Then your reasoning is like reasoning of Nazi generals in Summer of 1941. "We crushed Soviet might completely - it isn't difference if we kill them immediately or - in next year". Do you see?
Do you remember Great Nrthern War - Swedish King wiped out whole Russian army in 1700 completely and start to be busy with some different ideas. Then whole Swedish Army was completely wiped out after 8 years. Do you see?
Moral is - don't give your enemy any chance to stabilize. Press him. Stalk him. Don't wait something - like - while local loyalty would improved.

Let's pretend - you don't see any difference in "conquering whole Japan" immediately or in 20 years later. Let's imagine - some European power would help your opponents in these 20 years time period, but refuse to yield to you any Guns.
Let's imagine - Spirits of Ancient become to be quite angry on you for your absolute indifference to fulfil their wish - present Shogun to ravaged country as fast as possible - then any battle against your opponents (with European Guns in possession) occur under fine/dry condition and more then that - you never receive "Legendary Swordsman event" for your indifference.

Are you still sure if speed of your winning isn't important? It is wrong way of thinking for intended Shogun, and big disrespect for "Kami"s and your country. Your goal is - stop Civil War by any means and ANY unnecessary spent season must be grave burden on your conscience.

Your last post means - you are playing this game as power-seeker of some sort like some sort of adventurer, but it is wrong approach. Your conquest for Shogunate is tool for stopping War and National Disaster - not your own Ego-boosting request.

While you will not see any difference in speed for completing your Eternal Request for Shogunate, - you missed whole idea of Shogun game completely.

Quote Originally Posted by drisos
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Originally Posted by Bash
Try to be more Japan/Asiatic-minded guy while Shogun playing.
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Do you see?



This meant to me? Think twice! What do you know about my style of playing? IMO nothing!
Excuse me for repeating - you are missing idea of some sentences.
I don't know anything about of your style of playing. And I didn't make any assumptions about your "style of playing". But...

I know your way of thinking. It shows itself in your any post - I'm afraid. Then I advised you "to think like japan daymyo" while Shogun playing - not to play in "Asiatic manner".

Excuse me for pointing you - you are fighting for Shogun title - not for throne of Emperor of whole Japan!
You are not fighting for any equivalent of Western Crown, you are not trying to grab more lands or built more castles.
You are fighting for - MAKING THINGS IN RIGHT MANNER, - no more, no less.

You like to stop eternal war, pointless struggle and unnecessary suffering of innocent people. Yep, you are ready to do any steps for reaching this Terminal Request. You must mind about speed of your game. Any excessive day WILL multiply suffering of your own people. Then you MUST be speedy - in conscious/reasonable way.
Then ANY idea like "it isn't difference - either I will win immediately, or in 20 years" - show just one thing - you are still not seeing situation in "japan daymyo" manner. Alas...

Hmm... Quite interesting arguments do you have. Do you realize difference between STRATEGICAL Nature of Shogun Single Player Campaign, and absolute TACTICAL Nature of Shogun Multiplayer?

I explained some quite simple STRATEGIC ideas - like build Castles for troop-raising in Iron provinces - not in Silver provinces; or Archers are more effective in defensive battles on bridges then while assaulting enemy through aforementioned bridges.
Then you start to be touchy with next statement - "you are rude and some guy can beat you in a bloody pulp in TACTICAL battle".

Quite interesting sort of argument do you have - like:
Statement: "You've got wrong economy policy - your planned economy is direct way to disaster".
Answer: "Mind your own business. If you will try to be rude our friend' tanks/panzers show you all your mistakes on battle-field!"

No problem. I'm sure - prowess in leading panzer assault of your friend against some "free-economy minded community" can be non-comparable. But if he will insist to raise troops/Panzers in no-Iron/Silver province, then his STRATEGICAL decision would be rather... strange, I'm afraid.