Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So according to the logic used on this debate Poland beat Russia even if it took a mere 400 years without the poles killing any russians to gain the final victory just as no Americans were killed at the time of our defeat.
How do you see that Poland beat Russia?

During the 400 years mentioned by you, Poland (regarding the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth of 1600s as "Poland") lost like 80% of its territory to Russia and the nation was decapitated.

The Kingdom of Poland, the Commonwealth of Both Nations is not there anymore and will never be, while Russia is there, as imperial and power hungry as ever.