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    Sabotage doesn't have to be an inside job. It doesn't matter who does damage a disgruntled employee, a rival, a spy, or a terrorist. It's still sabotage. It doesn't matter whether the thing damaged is inside or outside. Even Abstract concepts like ratings can have their meanings damaged. I read game reviews with a pound of salt. I discount extremely favorable reviews like 5's or 10's and extremely low reviews such as 1's. These reviews I see as very suspect, a personal agenda as some have said or a troll who thinks he's cool.
    With this issue in particular, It doesn't matter how well written they are. Their intent is not primarily to review the game for customers, but as another venue to cry out to CA for a patch.

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    Perhaps you should say that it is your perception of their intent. As you weren't there when they wrote it, so you can't really say why "they" chose to do so.

    Bh

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    While were on semantics, please correct me if I misread something somewhere. But blackmail and extortion only involve money? Anything of value can be threatened by hurting something else of value to the victim. It can be a promotion, "companionship", plane ticket out of the country, freeing of "wrongly imprisioned compatriots. In this case, the thing of value wanted is a patch for a video game. Threats can be like do this or I'll kill your family or blow up this shopping mall. In this case, it's lost sales.

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    good point.

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    I'm not focusing on this as much as other people. But every now and then I need to vent at the pointlessness of arguing on the internet

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    It's no skin off my nose either way. I haven't written a review on Amazon (or anywhere else), nor do I intend to. And while I personally find CA's (and Activision's) lack of support distasteful, I'll simply be "voting" with my wallet.

    But I do find it annoying (and somewhat hypocritical) when people suggest that people shouldn't be writing the reviews if they feel it's warranted. Write your own if you want. But leave it to others to decide what review they wish to write, and what score they wish to give.

    Bh

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    Yep, it's all ridiculous what's going on. I think the mod was right about this thread getting ridiculous. First the dictionary and now philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Maxentius
    While were on semantics, please correct me if I misread something somewhere. But blackmail and extortion only involve money? Anything of value can be threatened by hurting something else of value to the victim. It can be a promotion, "companionship", plane ticket out of the country, freeing of "wrongly imprisioned compatriots. In this case, the thing of value wanted is a patch for a video game. Threats can be like do this or I'll kill your family or blow up this shopping mall. In this case, it's lost sales.
    Sorry, can't give you that one. Blackmail is basically saying "give me this, or I'll do this". There is no "or I'll do this" here, because people already are writing their reviews. Also, blackmail can only be done to someone. People arranging the so-called "campaign" here, or on other forums isn't doing it to CA. People would have to be emailing CA and saying "give us a patch or we'll go write bad reviews on Amazon". Which would be a ridiculous email to send.

    Bh

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    It isn't sabotage to give your opinion of a game, and to warn others off. Calling reviews or ratings sabotage or blackmail because you disagree with them is nonsense. It clearly implies a serious wrong is being committed. That's nonsense and that's why this debate is continuing.

    Another reason for giving it the lowest possible ranking: prospective buyers would do better to wait for the XPack and the typical "bundle." Why buy an unfinished product twice? It makes no sense at this point. Buyers would be wiser to wait for a bundle (and a patch) at any rate. It is certainly a better use of their playing time.

    And just a reminder of why we are all here discussing this in the first place: The problem is not with the customer, it is with the developer. The developer is the only one that can rectify the situation.
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