V&V mechanics, "NoGoingBackLevel"

**Camp Freddie** · 04-15-2005, 12:52

Jerome & Captain:

Thanks for dropping by, it's great to have some feedback and to know that you're working on those trait glitches.

If you can fix some of these trait triggers, fix the double trait problem, the load game problem, reduce the rebel annoyances and beef up the battle AI a bit - then I'm totally sold on the expansion pack!

There are loads of bug-lists around, but they do tend to be semi-useless because of the issues Jerome mentioned. I'd love a well moderated bug/glitch-sticky - but it needs to be really well moderated and seperated into bug-categories, like 'game-breakers', 'annoyances' and 'tweak suggestions'.

If a mod (or group of mods) has the time to do this, it'd be great.

**JeromeGrasdyke** · 04-15-2005, 14:33

Originally Posted by Camp Freddie

If you can fix some of these trait triggers, fix the double trait problem, the load game problem, reduce the rebel annoyances and beef up the battle AI a bit - then I'm totally sold on the expansion pack!

Rest assured, all of these things are on the to-do list (in fact, most have already been done). And quite a few other things as well. The work, eet is proceeding apace, Cap'n. Great sig, btw

**Camp Freddie** · 04-15-2005, 15:42

[burns] Excellent... [/burns]

**Red Harvest** · 04-15-2005, 16:49

I am very glad to see CA reps comment on the broken traits that folks have been toiling away at for approximately 2 months (probably longer since there was some work on it prior to 1.2.) This is one of the things that seriously unbalances the game for the player vs. the AI. With the player getting 10 stars in a couple of battles, the AI doesn't seem to have much of a chance on the field.

As a suggestion...it looks like it would helpful to both CA and the community if confirmation of such problems was a bit more timely. Not wanting to shoot the messengers, but folks put an awful lot of work into things like this. CA could leverage this community resource more by confirming specific problems sooner so that investigation could then move into other aspects.

Thanks!

**Old Celt** · 04-15-2005, 17:15

Jerome,

Very good to see you posting here. I was wondering if it might be possible to have some members of this forum community do some beta testing of these changes prior to the next release? I'm sure you could get all the volunteers you'd ever need, and by taking such an opportunity, you would be heading off issues that might not be seen until many thousands of hours of gameplay have been logged. Just a thought.

**SigniferOne** · 04-15-2005, 18:10

Er I don't want to be an annoyance, but I am not sure whether to classify our current inability to parse descr_skeleton.txt as a bug or just something we haven't figured out how to do yet. So Jerome, since you asked for feedback, if that's broken can you confirm it? Otherwise we keep hoping that some way to get it to work will be found.

**Captain Fishpants** · 04-18-2005, 17:38

Originally Posted by Old Celt

Jerome,

Very good to see you posting here. I was wondering if it might be possible to have some members of this forum community do some beta testing of these changes prior to the next release? I'm sure you could get all the volunteers you'd ever need, and by taking such an opportunity, you would be heading off issues that might not be seen until many thousands of hours of gameplay have been logged. Just a thought.

I can answer this rather than Jerome.

In the past there was a beta test organised within the forum communities and, though very successful, the whole process was ruined by one individual who leaked the beta code onto the net. As you might imagine, that kind of thing stops the process in its tracks.

**Old Celt** · 04-18-2005, 18:53

Capt Fishpants,

Thanks for your reply. I fully understand the concern over beta releases and security. I wonder if perhaps you have a trusted relationship with a user at this site, and you might be willing to give that single individual a role in beta testing? I would be very happy to know we have someone as a sort of liaison between the dev and forum going communities. Such a person could help by tuning in to the concerns of the forum members, and watching for the presence of these problems in the beta program. Just a thought.

**HarunTaiwan** · 04-15-2005, 18:34

That's what we want to hear!

**Wishazu** · 04-15-2005, 23:33

this is probably a bit off the topic guys but i was wondering if you CA guys could tell me why Egyptian Desert Cav has a unit size of 80 on large scale when other cav units are only 54? cheers. btw, really looking forward to the expansion :)