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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    The barbarian generals don`t get high-tech armour, they get a carefully chosen unit with more armour as bodyguards.

    The improved bodyguard unit is named "Chosen Warlord", not "Armoured General", wich make the great difference.
    These bodyguards were the best armoured soldiers in the cavalry ranks.
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    I just can't see the sense in the germans being more deserving of a better bodyguard unit (much of the improvement is tied to better armor and weapons) than say the macedonians.

    The bodyguards of the barbarians are already better than the greek ones (at least I'm pretty sure), and I just cant see the reasoning for them getting improved faster.
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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    First of all, the upgrade is not tied to weapons at all(unfortunately).

    The barbarians are much more used to war and warfare(they go around and kill each other everyday), then the civilized people(therefore they are more advanced since they know how to co-operate).

    Already, the barbarians get more advanced infantry and archers than the civilized factions(chosen swordsmen, chosen archer warband, berserkers++).
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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    Well, at what level barbs get thier good armored noble cavalry? At 3rd city level.

    At what level macedons get their havy cavalry?
    At 5th city level.
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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    I think the bodyguards should be upgraded when the faction reaches the apogee of its development. For barbarians, that would be third city level, and fifth for civilised factions.
    I can see the argument that there should be a level playing field. What really matters to me is that the upgrade should be triggered by that faction's level of development, not that of the Romans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by player1
    Well, at what level barbs get thier good armored noble cavalry? At 3rd city level.

    At what level macedons get their havy cavalry?
    At 5th city level.
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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    My Marius Reforms still havent happened yet.

    I've got an Imperial Palace in Capua

    Its past 220BC its now 194BC

    Will it ever happen? i want some decent flippin cavlary!
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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    There is always radom factor involved.
    But don't worry, it will happen eventually.
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    Default Re: Marian reforms in 1.2

    it better had!
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