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    robotica erotica Member Colovion's Avatar
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    Default Re: Why can't more factions be like Egypt?

    seemingly, the factions given the most effort, besides the Romans, was the Egyptians.

    It shouldn't make your eyes widen when you realize that the Egyptians are totally wrong, that's obvious. It should, however, give you pause when you consider that CA spent all that time making the faction be totally different than they were historically and didn't give the same amount of effort to the Cartheginians who were, historically, Rome's supreme adversary. Well, besides where they're located on the map.
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    I agree. Carthage was not given enough oomph in my book.

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    carthage in RTR can also train huge'amounts of armies, and britannia is good too. if you don't stop the macedonians they'll overun everything.

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    and almost forgot thrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1
    carthage in RTR can also train huge'amounts of armies, and britannia is good too. if you don't stop the macedonians they'll overun everything.
    Ah, Britannia... Talking about unrealistic... They are way to succesfull against the AI, I mean, having Britons raiding deep into Germania is just...weird...

    Or you would have to believe that even in those days Britannia ruled the waves

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    the Cartheginians who were, historically, Rome's supreme adversary.
    After all, in reality the Carthaginians nearly destroyed Rome. When i frist played this game, i was expecting the Gauls to be sending huge hordes into the Alps, and the mighty Carthaginians invading Italy. Instead, i had gaul sending tiny little stacks of about 100 men which weren't cool, but just annoying and i had Carthage wiped out within 20 turns by the Scipii. Carthage didn't even gain territory, they continually lost it.
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    Ye i agree. Rome are way to over powered so are egypt. Its normaly Egypt Rome Britannia maby and what ever faction you are at the end. Dsnt really folow a historical realism....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus
    Ah, Britannia... Talking about unrealistic... They are way to succesfull against the AI, I mean, having Britons raiding deep into Germania is just...weird...

    Or you would have to believe that even in those days Britannia ruled the waves

    hahahahaha had that too. but i cut their supply lines and eliminated the britons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1
    hahahahaha had that too. but i cut their supply lines and eliminated the britons
    Chariots are super, super ugly cheats in autocalc battles. Elephants may have merits that they can turn any battle upside down (on any side...) and thus have high autocalc value. But, chariots? Com'on, THAT is obsolete. Since AI vs AI fought only in autocalc, their chariots won virtually every battles for them, except being outnumbered or fought against the human player. That's why they owned the poor Gauls and Germans.

    Good riddance for them, thanks, RTR!

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    RTR didn't eliminate brythonic chariots, but eastern ones like egypt's, pontus and seleucids chariots

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    Well Carthaginians have one of the worst infantry units in the game: Iberian Infantry. Compare that to Hastati, or better yet to ordinary Warband. Also, their first cavalry unit is so, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HarunTaiwan
    I agree. Carthage was not given enough oomph in my book.
    Carthage by far was the biggest disappointment in Rome: Total War. What should have been the most formidable faction in the game after the Romans ended up being one of the weakest. The game utterly fails in recreating the power struggle between the Roman & Carthaginian Empires.

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    You guys hit the nail on the head. I'm not good at modding, but I'm always trying to make the severly underpowered Carthaginians more formidable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazzyguy
    You guys hit the nail on the head. I'm not good at modding, but I'm always trying to make the severly underpowered Carthaginians more formidable.
    You could start by editing the stats of Libyan spearmen and Punic infantry. It's an easy task, to begin with; easier than giving Carthage scutarii properly (which requires .pak extracting to make a unit card) or give them more provinces. And, it has historical background for it too. The Libyan spearmen, more properly a sort of African recruits by Carthage from "subject" cities, are known as EQUALS to Roman Legions (Principes/Triarii) in battle. They just weren't numerous enough to make up the majority of Carthage's army. They made up the core, though. And of course, the actual Punic infantry were trained historically only in Carthage and are very few in number. Undoubtly, they're the most devoted and reliable unit for Carthage's army after the Sacred Bands...

    They suck in game.

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    I would think the biggest problem with the AI is their seige, losing field battle a individual stacks is nothing, but losing a city or losing a army trying to take one is very bad, and in both the RTW AI excel at ......

    Seriously I can only recall one time i acturally lost a seige assult to the AI, and that time i was so outnumbered (I had 2 milita cav, 3 miltia hoplit and a general vs a full stack of eastern infantry and pontic cavs in a wooden wall city) while the AI also makes very poor decision defending seiges too, (although not as horrid as charging a whole army head on through boiling oil gates into 6 group of spartans.)

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