Why can't more factions be like Egypt?

[Brutus]

carthage in RTR can also train huge'amounts of armies, and britannia is good too. if you don't stop the macedonians they'll overun everything.

Ah, Britannia... Talking about unrealistic... They are way to succesfull against the AI, I mean, having Britons raiding deep into Germania is just...weird...

Or you would have to believe that even in those days Britannia ruled the waves

[Mikeus Caesar]

the Cartheginians who were, historically, Rome's supreme adversary.

After all, in reality the Carthaginians nearly destroyed Rome. When i frist played this game, i was expecting the Gauls to be sending huge hordes into the Alps, and the mighty Carthaginians invading Italy. Instead, i had gaul sending tiny little stacks of about 100 men which weren't cool, but just annoying and i had Carthage wiped out within 20 turns by the Scipii. Carthage didn't even gain territory, they continually lost it.

[tibilicus]

Ye i agree. Rome are way to over powered so are egypt. Its normaly Egypt Rome Britannia maby and what ever faction you are at the end. Dsnt really folow a historical realism....

[The Stranger]

Ah, Britannia... Talking about unrealistic... They are way to succesfull against the AI, I mean, having Britons raiding deep into Germania is just...weird...

Or you would have to believe that even in those days Britannia ruled the waves

hahahahaha had that too. but i cut their supply lines and eliminated the britons

[AntiochusIII]

hahahahaha had that too. but i cut their supply lines and eliminated the britons

Chariots are super, super ugly cheats in autocalc battles. Elephants may have merits that they can turn any battle upside down (on any side...) and thus have high autocalc value. But, chariots? Com'on, THAT is obsolete. Since AI vs AI fought only in autocalc, their chariots won virtually every battles for them, except being outnumbered or fought against the human player. That's why they owned the poor Gauls and Germans.

Good riddance for them, thanks, RTR!

[The Stranger]

RTR didn't eliminate brythonic chariots, but eastern ones like egypt's, pontus and seleucids chariots

[vastator]

RTR didn't eliminate brythonic chariots, but eastern ones like egypt's, pontus and seleucids chariots

Why did RTR get rid of the Pontic chariots? Mithridates VI used scythed chariots in his wars against Rome in the 1st century BC. I think he may have been the last person to do so. BTW, did RTR also get rid of the British chariot archers and replace them with (historically accurate) javelin throwers?

[The Stranger]

VASTATOR
eh maybe they didn't but i did. but i thought egyptian and seleucids chariots are deleted.

CHEF4FUN
they get their good units relativly late in the game. so they rely on levíes almost all the way. egyptians and other eastern factions get good units faster.

BARBAROSSA84
in my RTR campaign they controlled spain and north-west AFRICA

[chef4fun2]

VASTATOR
eh maybe they didn't but i did. but i thought egyptian and seleucids chariots are deleted.

CHEF4FUN
they get their good units relativly late in the game. so they rely on levíes almost all the way. egyptians and other eastern factions get good units faster.

BARBAROSSA84
in my RTR campaign they controlled spain and north-west AFRICA

Your right to a point. If the Seleucid can make it 10 to 15 years they should be able to start making the goodies that they have and than start kicking major butt! I was able to by than and than the game got really fun. I was wondering has anyone given them more money at the start to see if that would help them? I would love to put my Macedon stacks ver there adv. stacks. That would be fun

[AntiochusIII]

RTR didn't eliminate brythonic chariots, but eastern ones like egypt's, pontus and seleucids chariots

Well, yes, the chariots are still there. But the expansive Briton faction is gone for good in 6.0 Thus, they will not disturb the prosperous lands of Gaul and Germania.

That's mean a stronger Gaul and Germania, and thus, a more dynamic Barbarian wars. The Gauls were a powerful and influential people, though disunited, in history. The Britannic Celts were not. While the Germans, well, they had a major role in history.

Pontus will possess its scythed chariot, I think.

The Seleucids rarely use any chariots at all in most battles, hence they must be gone, or else the AI will abuse them.

The Egyptian chariots are a disgrace.

[player1]

Well Carthaginians have one of the worst infantry units in the game: Iberian Infantry. Compare that to Hastati, or better yet to ordinary Warband. Also, their first cavalry unit is so, so...

[The Stranger]

and they have CARTHAGE that means that they are able to build hordes of iberian infantry. so the overwhelm every faction in the beginning. and their rectruitment tab is quite impressive

infantry

iberian infantry
lybian infantry
celtiberian scutarii
poeni infantry
armoured scutarii
heavy carthaginian infantry
sacred legionares (sacred band)

missile

skirmishers
archers

cavalry

round shields
long shields
sacred band cavalry
eles

well beat that

[Barbarossa82]

Carthage don't get archers unless you mod them in (which I've done - history be damned, they need the boost!) Still haven't noticed them making much progress as an AI faction though.

[chef4fun2]

I can not understand why the Seleucid are not a power house in the game? They have the best of all worlds, Elephants,chariots,phalanxes and killer CAV. When I play them I have no issue with any faction. But when I play someone else they seem to be killed off pretty fast.