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    Default Re: Extended Greek Mod

    Quote Originally Posted by Guyus Germanicus
    Does that mean that if I want to go back to playing the vanilla RTW, I can simply access it through my old RTW desktop icon?
    yup.

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    DBH -
    I downloaded the mod, then I extracted the files from the zipped-file using Windows. (I have a new machine, W/Windows XP Media Center) purchased just this last February or March. I ran the round XGM Mod icon from the XGM file, (it didn't seem to want to run referenced from the Windows Start/Run option). But it appeared to have installed the mod onto my machine. It added the Extended Greek Mod shortcut to my desktop.

    When I executed the EGM shortcut, it brought up the RTW style Menu presentation. The Prologue option showed that it was not allowed in this game. Understandable. But there was no "provincial" menu option like I was expecting from something I read on a post from the author's comments on the TWCenter website. The campaign option appeared to be one of the active choices, and I could select it, but I wouldn't go anywhere. There was an error screen that appeared, but I did not write down the text of the error. It basically said something about expecting a date and there not being one. The pop-up window with the error message showed a line or two of programming code, but it didn't say much more than that.

    I couldn't go back to my old RTW icon because it had been disabled in the upload of the Greek mod. When I clicked on it, it would tell me it was inactive.
    The XGM icons on my desktop for RTW and BI were both present. I didn't try the BI one.
    Don't know if this means anything but I'll mention it. My version of RTW/BI is the Gold Edition. It's supposed to be patched to 1.6. I purchased it in April of this year. So I have assumed that my version of RTW was completely compatible.

    So now I'm going to assume that my newer version of RTW in the Gold Edition is either the problem, or there was something about the way I "ran" the XGM icon in the XGM folder for the XGM upload process that screwed the installation of the mod. I removed RTW and BI from my machine and reloaded them so I could play my ongoing campaign. But it also appears to me, that once I load XGM on my machine, the vanilla RTW will no longer be an option.

    As an aside, I couldn't get Victoria and Mr. Centurion to shut up last night even when I set their advice on 'low'. Hope I didn't create a problem for myself in RTW in the "failed attempt" to upload XGM.

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    Default Re: Extended Greek Mod

    Guyus Germanicus: Unfortunately, if you bought the Gold Edition in North America (and maybe some other places) it does not really patch the game to 1.6, so you will need to download the 1.6 patch and install it before you install XGM.

    Installing XGM should not interfere with your vanilla RTW, so I'm not sure why you had problems with that. When you ran the installer a file should have been generated called install.log, in the folder where the XGM installer was located. Could you e-mail that to me, or post it here? (email: dimebagwhore@yahoo.com).

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    DBH -
    I will look for the install.log when I get home from work today. I will also download the 1.6 patch sometime today when I can. I will try posting the log on the Guild. But barring that, I will forward it to you at your email address.

    Thank you for your kind interest in my predicament. Would really love to play the Greeks with the new units. Hopefully, the Eras package they're releasing with the Alexander expansion pack will have everything patched to current.
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    DBH -
    My predicament may be even worse than I thought. I'm reading the README information on the RTW patches, and I think my Gauls are still capable of producing Naked Fanatics, a feature that was supposed to be eliminated in patch 1.5, which means I may have TWO downloads of patches to do to bring my Gold Edition version of RTW up-to-date!!

    I do think I have a memory leak in my version of the game - something that both patches deal with. I have had a couple extended-play games go bust on me. It would certainly be nice if SEGA, when marketing a new release of their game, would upgrade the release with all the latest patches regardless of what continent we're living on. It now appears to me that the Gold Edition released late last calendar year is only patched to 1.3.

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    Default Re: Extended Greek Mod (totalwar.com confusion)

    DBH -
    I have downloaded both 1.5 and 1.6 patches. Will install 1.6 after work today. Reading www.totalwar.com website info on the patches, it appears that I probably only need to load patch 1.6, and that the RTW fixes in 1.5 are contained in v1.6. I printed out the README file for closer examination. The website states in italicized print that if you have RTW the Gold Edition, it's already patched. Obviously, not true in my case. Hopefully, this will solve the problem for loading XGM and fix my extended-play memory leak at the same time.

    I don't think in my version of RTW that the Academy class buildings are giving a "law" public order bonus. I'll confirm that this evening, as well.
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    Default Re: Extended Greek Mod (it works now)

    DBH -

    Just wanted to let you know my XGM is working now. I installed the RTW/BI patch 1.6. Once I did that I simply tried to load XGM again and it went smoothly.

    There is some confusing information out there on the totalwar.com website about versions. Obviously, I bought a version of the Gold Edition that had v 1.4 of BI wedded to version 1.5 of RTW. Bad packaging error on the part of CA/SEGA especially when they state unequivocally on the website that the Gold Edition has the latest patches included. But the README file on the total war website is also misleading. Their update to add a public order bonus for the Academy series of buildings was never coded. Thankfully, someone on the Total War Center support site had the code to show how you can add the logic to the RTW software yourself. It's very simple actually. Also, the README file said that the Gauls can no longer recruit Naked Fanatics. I believe this is false as well. They should either correct the README file or remove it altogether to reduce the confusion.

    Couple possible bugs in XGM? In my first battle taking the Greeks vs the Macedonians, my unit of mercenary hoplites never showed any spears. Also, the bow & arrow never showed up when I commanded my mercenary peltests to attack an enemy phalanx. After recommanding them several times and setting them in loose formation, (just coincidence?), they finally started hurling their javelins. But I had to keep reissuing the command to attack.

    My goodness, but the action was immediate. Macedonia was heavily fortified with stacks in their cities when the game opened. And they were very aggressive. Their navy was everywhere. The game starts in 280 BC and by 277 BC I had fought three major epic battles with the crossed swords showing on the campaign map. I was expecting a little more build up before such a rough and tumble encounter with the AI. The combat pace is a bit slower than what I was expecting, but I believe you warned users of that. The victory condition seems a bit daunting - 70 regions! Plus conquering the four corners of the world? You have added cities to the campaign map, so perhaps the 70 regions may not be as awesome a task as I'm thinking it is at the moment. I haven't played BI much, so the loyalty bar feature on the faction members screen is something I'll have to get used to.

    Another possible bug? Victoria sometimes gives advice when you solicit her inside a city's screen, and sometimes she doesn't. Given that I had more choices for temples and shrines, I was hoping she would make some calls for me as to what I should build, but I wasn't getting any help. Once when I asked her for help at Rhodes, she recommended a building that was whited-out because my cash was so low. Mr. Centurion was gone altogether in the combat screen.

    All in all this is a remarkable effort what you all have put together here. You and your team should be proud of yourselves for the coding and design work you did. My compliments.
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