spears and pikes

[jerby]

will the difference be big? hwo will you differentiate ( not a real word probably) the two?

hoplites will have short_pikes and phalangites long_pikes ( read that )
-will unit mass be altered? since the (example) armoured hoplite will be a lot heavier than any phalangites.
-will teh hoplite shield be bigger in rtw since the spear are shorter?
-will pikeman actually be able to beat hoplites ( unlike in vanilla)?
-what spear will the hypaspistai have?

about teh last. if the hypaspistai have long_pikes then macedon will have two
equal units. the silver shields and the hypaspistai.

[Keba]

I thought the Silver Shields were Seleucid, not Macedonian. The units wouldn't really be the same, as long as there is a difference in stats.

[jerby]

silver shield will be for both, at least, i thought i read that.
but still, there is so little evidence for teh equipment of hyspastistai that EB ahs free room to do whatever they want. so a hoplite-model will make MAcedon my favorite faction: pikemen, phalangites, 'heavy' peltast, 'companion cav', to be honest I'was already jumping up and down when I read macedon will have silver shields.

[Drag0nUL]

I doubt hypaspists will have sarissas(I assume these are the long_pikes).If you look at the pictures of the macedonian and seleucid hiypaspistai in the news thread, they look more like hoplites: the large aspis and armor; also their spear is one-handed so I assume it will be shorter than the sariisa.

[jerby]

yeah you're right. i'm still in rtw where even sarissa's are onehanded. the shield is too big for pikemen, but the spear looks long... but you're right. they also have heavy armor. thnx

[Sarcasm]

Hypaspists will use the same method of fighting as regular hoplites for the Greek.

Pikemen will be represented like pretty much everything else, historically. Pikemen were not overwhelmingly superior to regular hoplites or Iphikrateans for that matter.