CA asks for Bug List - to be fixed in the expansion

**Myrddraal** · 04-21-2005, 08:36

About the loadgame bug, isn't this enough

Loading bugs (all one bug?)

AI break siege- the AI will often break up sieges after loading a saved game
AI become protectorates - After loading a saved game, the AI seem very susceptible to diplomatic overtures such as the offering of protectorate status, ceasefires, alliances, etc.

**Torvald** · 04-21-2005, 10:36

I've been diligently reading this thread before posting. I usually post on the .com forum, but am seriously thinking about a permament "move" to the .org just because the atmosphere seems so much nicer here. Anyways, just wanted to say that what you're doing in this thread is really productive, and for whatever it's worth, you have my full support.

Also, the issue I want to bring up was touched upon by sik1977 a couple of posts above. I am Mindblank, the original poster of one the .com link he provides. Again, here is the link:

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...ID=24041.topic

Game version is RTW 1.2 (i.e. vanilla, no downloaded mods, no personal mods or tweaks to any text files)

It is actually a twofold issue:

1) When capturing certain cities as part of a Senate mission (Sardis seems to be particularly prone to this, but other cities, including Corinth and Sidon have been known to cause this too), the Roman player gets outlawed for no logical reason. I say "no logical reason" because it apparently has nothing to do with prior Senate/Pleb popularity, number of regions controlled, etc.

2) After this premature outlawing, the Senate behaves irrationally: it outlaws the other Roman factions, hands out new missions to the already outlawed Roman player, etc.

For more details I recommend checking out the link I provided.

Also, I can provide a saved game to illustrate this problem.

**Myrddraal** · 04-21-2005, 10:41

Thx Torvald, and welcome to the .org

Enjoy your stay.

I'll look into that and add it to this list. sorry about the lack of speed with which the list is updated. You guys post so many a day, I'm running hard to catch up, but I can't be online very often these last few days. Keep it up though

**screwtype** · 04-21-2005, 10:47

Here's a little something else in my current game that may or may not qualify as a bug, depending on your POV.

On about the fifth turn of my current campaign, a Pontic army crossed over the straits and parked itself outside my newly acquired city of Byzantium. I suspected it was planning to attack, but since I had a diplomat handy I sent him to ask for trade rights, hopeful that this might dissuade the AI from attacking.

Well, Pontus accepted the trade offer. And it's army stayed outside Byzantium where it had first moved. And stayed. And stayed. And stayed.

I'm now 30 turns into the campaign and this Pontic army is still standing there. But what really bothers me is that two Pontic ships (in separate stacks), one of which I think was used to transport the army, are ALSO just staying there, apparently stuck, in the straits. This means I cannot move ships into or out of the Caspian. It's absurd.

Oh and while I'm on the topic of ships, can anyone tell me why the heck a neutral ship would have a ZOC that restricts your movement? Surely only enemy ships (and armies) should have ZOC's that affect your units? I'm tired of neutral ships being in the way when I want to move my ships somewhere.

**Dead Moroz** · 04-21-2005, 11:36

I'd like to remind about well-known bug of "flying deads". Sometimes dead bodies hangs in the air.

You can find many similar pictures in "Picture of the day" section on TWC.

I think CA should fix some glitches of hoplites and pikemen. This one:

and another one: spear or pike passing through shield when units are in phalanx formation.

**Dead Moroz** · 04-21-2005, 11:38

Originally Posted by screwtype

Here's a little something else in my current game that may or may not qualify as a bug, depending on your POV.

On about the fifth turn of my current campaign, a Pontic army crossed over the straits and parked itself outside my newly acquired city of Byzantium. I suspected it was planning to attack, but since I had a diplomat handy I sent him to ask for trade rights, hopeful that this might dissuade the AI from attacking.

Well, Pontus accepted the trade offer. And it's army stayed outside Byzantium where it had first moved. And stayed. And stayed. And stayed.

I'm now 30 turns into the campaign and this Pontic army is still standing there. But what really bothers me is that two Pontic ships (in separate stacks), one of which I think was used to transport the army, are ALSO just staying there, apparently stuck, in the straits. This means I cannot move ships into or out of the Caspian. It's absurd.

Are you playing 1.1 or 1.2?

**Myrddraal** · 04-21-2005, 12:14

Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that corpse. It happened to me in this situation.

There were many many men in a very small area, hoplites included. Are these similar conditions to when others get flying corpses?

**screwtype** · 04-21-2005, 13:38

Originally Posted by Dead Moroz

Are you playing 1.1 or 1.2?

1.2. I am playing the RTR mod though, which in theory might be responsible, but I doubt it would be.

**Viking** · 04-21-2005, 14:06

About the loadgame bug(or?):

I have never experienced that sieges have been broken after I have reloaded a game.

But what I do experience, is that the AI very often break sieges the turn they should have attacked, and that is quite annoying.

I read that this was a part of the loadgame bug, but is it?

**sik1977** · 04-21-2005, 14:17

@ Viking

The sieges are not lifted till you press end turn after a load. Its not like you load a game and the siege is not even there.

You may read the other thread on the Ludus Magna on this issue for more information and detailed testing by patrons.

@ Myrddraal

I just checked the list. It may be that you have yet to add the following issue but haven't done so due to lack of time, but just in case mentioning here:

Units tend to fall to their death between the gap (invisible one) between the ramp of the Siege Tower and the Wall they are trying to get onto through the said Siege Tower. This doesn't happen always and I have personally noticed this bug occassionaly on the Large Stone Walls.

**sik1977** · 04-21-2005, 14:03

I think this has been mentioned before.

Just wish to confirm that 'Pausing in Minimal UI' doesnt work properly, its as if one click of the pause button registers numerous clicks and u see the pause icon flash 10 times before you (in a milli-second) upon one click. Sometimes it ends up with a pause and sometimes it doesn't. Thus making the pause feature very frustrating, specially when every second is crucial during an engagement.