Samurai in STW ... how good are they ?

[Togakure]

Samurai Archers in original STW were better in melee than what they are in WE/MI. In addition, guns were much weaker in original STW, and they didn't fire at all if it rained. In MP, there were players who were quite good at using Samurai Archers in melee, and they didn't like the weakening of the unit in WE/MI. It had been turned exclusively into a shooter, and had to go up against guns that had increased 300% in firepower.

I haven't played the original STW since WE/MI came out, but the more I hear about it, the more I think I need to dig it up and try some custom battles with it to experience the differences.

I very rarely use guns in campaigns, even with WE/MI, as archers are so prolific, and effective in both ranged and melee roles at the honor and upgrade levels at which you tend to find them. When I first played MP I tried using archers, but the muskets everyone brought just shredded me once I ran out of arrows, so I quickly converted over to musks in order to survive a battle.

Yes I agree, the Samurai Archer is underpowered and overshadowed severely by hyper-powerful muskets in 1.02. I played a few "muskets disallowed" games this week (archers, CA only for ranged), and they were a refreshing contrast to the typical 1.02 battle. I tend to use archers a lot more when using the 1.03 stat.

Interesting to know that WE/MI muskets are 300%stronger than those in the original STW. Thanks for commenting, Puzz3D.

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Cool Kiwitt . Maybe you will try MP with us Shogun Diehards sometime (Toga hopes ...)? Whatever the case, have lots of fun with it. I've definitely gotten my money's worth.