has anyone been able to get archimedes?

**myz** · 04-19-2005, 19:54

I have never been able to get him in all my games. How do you do it? I have libraries, academies etc. but not that man

**Arrowhead** · 04-19-2005, 20:05

You can't get him can you?

**Kekvit Irae** · 04-19-2005, 20:28

Originally Posted by myz

I have never been able to get him in all my games. How do you do it? I have libraries, academies etc. but not that man

Trigger trigger_archimedes
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition EndedInSettlement
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and SettlementBuildingExists > = scriptorium
and IsGeneral
and I_TurnNumber > = 6
and I_TurnNumber < = 116

AcquireAncillary archimedes chance 80

This means that to get him, you need to...

a) Have a general in a settlement.
b) Have said general have full movement points left (IE: he must not have moved in the turn)
c) You need a Scriptorium (or better)
d) The turn number needs to be between 5 and 117 (6-116)
e) Even with all these conditions, there is still only an 80& chance

**Jacque Schtrapp** · 04-19-2005, 23:03

I've had him numerous times. He's pretty darn good for attacking and defending walls, which is very useful amongst the tiny provinces in Greece.

**Kekvit Irae** · 04-19-2005, 23:52

He is definately a character you want on the frontlines with a commanding general

**Kraxis** · 04-19-2005, 23:54

Have had him too a good number of times. He is certainly one of the better named ancilliaries. But there are others that are equally good I think, just in other departments.

You don't get him most likely because others have gotten him first, so be faster with the scriptorium!

Of an interesting note is that usually when I have build my first scriptorium is that the governor there will get 3-4 named ancilliaries right away. That is rather interesting and can make an average general into a good one, or a good governor into a really great administrator. This is also why it is a very bad thing to mod in a scriptorium to Rome, it will soak up most of them quite fast.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 04-20-2005, 03:17

I think I have gotten him, but I often forget which famous guys I have acquired. He was pretty darn usefull in reality as well...

**Craterus** · 04-20-2005, 16:21

I've had him before, and it was before 117bc. Unfortunately, this was before I knew about swapping retinue, so he died along with my faction leader, Ariston of Chios, Aristophanes lol. My faction leader was surrounded by great inventors, scientists, philosophers.

**sunsmountain** · 04-20-2005, 17:48

d) The turn number needs to be between 5 and 117 (6-116)

Just so everybody is crystal clear on this, this means that he only appears between:

Summer of 267 BC (turn 6) and the Winter of 211 BC (turn 116).

**Craterus** · 04-20-2005, 17:50

Oh, right, I think I got him around 215 so I was pretty lucky.

**Kraxis** · 04-21-2005, 22:16

Thats because he died in 211BC... Nice, hadn't noticed that.

**myz** · 04-21-2005, 22:19

I think other factions (non-you) don't build libraries or learning centers very aggressively, so you have a higher chance of getting good guys. But in my greek game, I have built scriptorium in athens for 3 turns now, still no archimedes, what the heck? I checked rome, it only has academy, no other romans have scriptorium. So maybe egyptians grabbed him, any other possible reasons he is not popping up?