Attrition

**Kraxis** · 04-24-2005, 12:45

Originally Posted by marcusbrutus

You could have a new range of traits and ancillaries such as

'ex-boy scout' - This man learned to light fires and put up tents at an early age - -10% to attrition.

Ray Meirs - This man follows your general helping the army build shelter from trees and teaches the men to eat grubs and tree bark. -20% to attrition, +20% to desertion.

Oh Ray is great...

"Oh no its Ray! I'm fed up with pine needles and whatnot! Lets go Publius."

A nice trait would be:
City Dweller: Living in cities doesn't exactly make you a superb campaigner. - +5% to attrition.

**The Stranger** · 04-24-2005, 13:36

and supply lines, can enemies step on a supply line and thus cutting the armies supply and making them starve.

**MajorFreak** · 04-24-2005, 14:27

mmmmm...yeah, i'll bet you dollars to donuts that was what that "unimplemented" feature called 'food' was probably supposed to simulate.

**Kraxis** · 04-24-2005, 15:17

Originally Posted by MajorFreak

mmmmm...yeah, i'll bet you dollars to donuts that was what that "unimplemented" feature called 'food' was probably supposed to simulate.

Indeed, I seem to remember a few comments by devs on this early on. There are also leftovers from carts on the battlefield. Could they have been a sort of baggagetrain?
Well there was the same thing in MTW where it was found that the game had been intended to have that and you could capture the baggagetrain and gain money directly from your enemy (from his coffers to yours). But it never made it, perhaps because there weren't really lines of communication.

**The Stranger** · 04-24-2005, 15:56

yeah you know what i think, RTW was released to early with some months more they could finish the ships sim and the "baggage train" and many many more

**Colovion** · 04-24-2005, 21:54

Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1

yeah you know what i think, RTW was released to early with some months more they could finish the ships sim and the "baggage train" and many many more

I get nightmares thinking about what the game would have been a year before release - when it was actually scheduled to be finished... and Activision said "ok we'll give you another year"

**The Stranger** · 04-25-2005, 13:59

hmm never thought about that, dude no i'm going to have nightmares Activision should have given them some xtra months

**Vlad Tzepes** · 05-02-2005, 16:32

Originally Posted by Emperor Umeu 1

and supply lines, can enemies step on a supply line and thus cutting the armies supply and making them starve.

I'm not sure about supply lines in Antiquity - not even in Medieval Era, weren't the invading armies then self-sufficient? Like raiding and plundering for extra supplies - and carrying hurds of cattle with them for food?

**The Stranger** · 05-02-2005, 16:42

you are probably right about armies on the move, but not for armies in forts or cities.

**mfberg** · 05-02-2005, 17:15

The baggage train (followers/hangers on, cattle, food, armourers, etc) that followed and supplied the army on the move was often the target of attacks. A roman army on the march built temporary forts every night for their army and baggage train, they carried stakes and shovels to do this.

mfberg

**Craterus** · 05-02-2005, 17:19

In my first ambush, when my army was completely unprepared, I expected the general to say "Get the women and children out of here!" and so on.

**mfberg** · 05-02-2005, 17:22

I would like to see the fleeing civilians/animals in the game. A nice effect, I know they made skeletons for deer and such, but I haven't seen them up close. The only civilians I have seen were those few walking around when I viewd a city up close, never in a battle.

mfberg