Types of victories

[Kekvit Irae]

I've had a few close victories in my campaigns

[Kraxis]

It helps to be outnumbered, but not a need.
I have had heroic victories with equal armies and about 1:5 lossrate. Nothing impressive.

[Darklion74]

Well it helped. Thanks guys. I'm playing using the SPQR mod and attacked Agrigentum, which was held on the first turn by the rebels (this city is not found in the original version), and managed a heroic victory, being outnumbered 5 to 3 (or about 450(them) vs 270(me)), while they lost over 400 troops, I lost around 11 (24 casualties, 13 healed).

Usually it does well to react to the siege tower not being placed on the main wall, in order to CONFUSE the enemy. Hey, why are the towers firing on us? Granted, I always use siege towers when going up against stone walls. Nice alternate staircase into the city once the gateway is taken.

[pezhetairoi]

Usually it does well to react to the siege tower not being placed on the main wall, in order to CONFUSE the enemy.

What do you mean by reacting to the siege tower? Whose?

[The Stranger]

if had many heroic victories over 500. (because in most campaigns i've won 1000 battles and lost just abaut 30-100) most of my heroic victories are in the start of the game. i also had that i was outnumber 1:3 but my army was way better though i crushed the enemy a significant number escaped (about 1000 of the 4000 due the lack of cuz i played romans) that and my better army (1200 5 chevron legionares) made the victory a normal one

[Darklion74]

Sorry. Bad grammar strikes again.

I meant to say that the AI did not respond very well to the siege tower not being placed right next to the gate... in fact, it got very confused when my men started to take other towers.

AI Rebel Soldier: Sir? The Roman Principes are on the walls, and are taking over our side towers.

AI Rebel Captain: So what? No big deal. They take one or two towers... pfft. We'll clog our main towers with archers to counter their threat, and fight them hand to hand.

AI Rebel Soldier: *Realizing his captain is an idiot, runs to the enemy and prays for mercy from the Roman General, noting he does not wish to die to protect the interests of a leader with a single-digit IQ.*

[Cardinal]

..... and the best part is when you get the crossed swords on the strategic map marking the heroic victory.... next the triumph through Rome

Incidentally, I got a Heroic Victory (and my two crossed sword) for slughtering to a man (or woman as the case might be) 120 screeching women with about 4-500 romans. Did not loose a single man though, but still!!

[Helgi]

It helps to be outnumbered, but not a need.
I have had heroic victories with equal armies and about 1:5 lossrate. Nothing impressive.

Your Place on the map and the field it's self count's for alot. Last night (playing EB mod), Playing Rome, fought Pontus with them coming out of the woods, but I placed my 2 horse archers and 4 skrimisher cav. on my right flank. To my center I put Celtic merc's, Samite Hvy. Inf, & some light inf whose name I can't remember with my General behind. On my left flank, Princeps, & Samite Hvy. Inf.. I charged with my Right flank pining the pontic skrimishers and let some of the pontic center to move in, a little on my right. At that point crashed my center into the pontic center and right with my left covering my center. By the end of the battle I surrounded the Pontic Army and cut it to pieces. Lost on 200 men and they lost 1000+, but what helped was using a steep hill and had 600 more men then them.

[red comyn]

Playing 1.6 patched BI last night, and curious thing happend(i'm playing the franks and the untit in question was WRE, VH/VH). The A.I. was playing silly buggers (nothing odd there then) by bringing the same unit of peasants, or in hindsight maybe a new unit every turn, almost up to my city and then when chalanged running away.

So I got used to sending my young general out to give them a push every turn, got lazy didnt check what it was and hit a WRE family member. Ah well he could do with a bit of a scrap says I and hits the autocalc button.

And this is where it gets odd, I killed 8 of his bodyguard, for the cost of 3 of mine and it came up as a heroic victory? go figure. any ideas why?