need advice about gals

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Ok, I'm being honest here, and looking for help.
I.e. flame me and die.


Anyway, there is this girl I know. She's smart, nice, cute (in the adorable not the *sharp whistle* way), beutiful, and cool. To make it better, she is one of the few people to see me for what I really am and not to judge me on first impressions (I tend to put of the impression of an insensative prick). And ya know, I'm pretty sure she likes me, almost definatly as a friend anyway.

Now, I'm planning on asking her out next week, right, but I am at a total loß. [thats loss], I had one GF before, and that was set up by a buddy of mine and lasted a grand total of 10 minutes before I dumped her. I won't go over the whole story, so what I'm asking is, how should I go about doing this?

Thanks for the support guys, it means alot to me.
-Kaiser

[Templar Knight]

who dares wins - ask her out!

[Kaiser of Arabia]

yeah but I need a battle plan. I need people to guard the flanks while I go in for the kill...oh s#it, I'm doing a military analogy again. Feck....
Anyway how would I go about asking her? Ask her to come with me to like a movie or for a bite to eat or just go head over tits and just ask her if shell go out with me?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Fire an arrow at her with a love note from you attached to it. It can't fail.

For an enhanced effect, dress up as a cherub.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Fire an arrow at her with a love note from you attached to it. It can't fail.

For an enhanced effect, dress up as a cherub.

I don't own a bow.
lol but that is creative. thanks. i may try somthing similar (but the cherub is right out)

[Templar Knight]

military philosophy and thinking can be used in every aspect of life, I use it all the time

[Templar Knight]

ask her out to the cinema, then somewhere to eat and take it from there

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Its irritating when you tell your friends to get on your left flank and someone to take up the vanguard as you get the pizza.

[Templar Knight]

Its irritating when you tell your friends to get on your left flank and someone to take up the vanguard as you get the pizza.

lol

[Beirut]

military philosophy and thinking can be used in every aspect of life, I use it all the time

Wisdom.

Read your Sun-Tzu Grasshopper. "When in disorder - feign order." And believe me, when you're dealing with chicks, disorder is rampant!

At the same time as you are asking her out, appear interested but not anxious. Almost as if you had a second date ready in case she says no.

If she says no, smile and just say, "Ok, but I hope you don't mind if I ask you again." Turn around, walk away and don't go anywhere near her for at least a week. Next time you see her, don't ask. Just smile, say hi, and leave like you have something to do. The next time you see her, gauge her reaction to you and decide if it feels right to ask again. Don't rush it!

If she says no again, smile, say something like "Too bad, I was looking forward to it. Oh well, take care." and walk away. Smile a warm friendly "too bad for you baby 'cause I'm fabulous" smile. Again, make a point of not seeing her again for at least another week. Never make her feel cornered or stalked. On the contrary, make her feel like she's standing in the middle of a field with no one around her. Ask her fifty times if you want to, but never make her feel harassed or followed. If you act desperate, you will be killed by the cruelty of a woman's cold heart.

Remember, chicks love confident men. Not arrogant really, but confident.

Good luck Grasshopper.

*Oh ya, and if you score with my advice, you have to make her call you Beirut on your first erotic adventure.

[Papewaio]

Ask her out to a movie both of you would like to go to.

Be nice and show interest in her.

Don't bring up TW first... and even if she asks about your hobbies try and show the intellectual not bloodthirsty side...

[Kaiser of Arabia]

LOL dude I'm catholic she's catholic (i think) and her dad's in the navy erotic experiences = death and hell for me
but thanks for the advice Beirut and Navaros, it means alot to me/

[Adrian II]

If she says no, smile and just say, "Ok, but I hope you don't mind if I ask you again." Turn around, walk away and don't go anywhere near her for at least a week. Next time you see her, don't ask. Just smile, say hi, and leave like you have something to do. The next time you see her, gauge her reaction to you and decide if it feels right to ask again. Don't rush it!

If she says no again, smile, say something like "Too bad, I was looking forward to it. Oh well, take care." and walk away. Smile a warm friendly "too bad for you baby 'cause I'm fabulous" smile. Again, make a point of not seeing her again for at least another week. Never make her feel cornered or stalked. On the contrary, make her feel like she's standing in the middle of a field with no one around her. Ask her fifty times if you want to, but never make her feel harassed or followed. If you act desperate, you will be killed by the cruelty of a woman's cold heart.

What is this shit about warm smiles and tricks and plan B and C and what have you? Sjeesj Beirut, you sound like a girl.

Just be straight with her, Kaiser, she's gonna know who you are anyway if the two of you get close. Go somewhere fun, nothing high-brow, so you can concentrate on each other. And give your friends a night off. In love, there are no helpers, no gloves, no towels to protect you. Who said life is fair? Good luck!!

[Proletariat]

At the same time as you are asking her out, appear interested but not anxious. Almost as if you had a second date ready in case she says no.

If she says no, smile and just say, "Ok, but I hope you don't mind if I ask you again." Turn around, walk away and don't go anywhere near her for at least a week. Next time you see her, don't ask. Just smile, say hi, and leave like you have something to do. The next time you see her, gauge her reaction to you and decide if it feels right to ask again. Don't rush it!

If she says no again, smile, say something like "Too bad, I was looking forward to it. Oh well, take care." and walk away. Smile a warm friendly "too bad for you baby 'cause I'm fabulous" smile. Again, make a point of not seeing her again for at least another week. Never make her feel cornered or stalked.

I can't lie, much more idiotic approaches worked on me as a high schooler. Go with Beirut.

[Navaros]

sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and do things you're not comfortable doing.

i think that you Capo do not really need advice on what to do. you know what to do. but you're just nervous about it so you came here looking for some ways to possibly cushion your nervousness. but there are no solid ways to do that, unfortunately.

there is only one proper thing to do with your nervousness: confront it face to face, and then crush it's head with your iron fist.

"take the bull by the horns" and all that. you know the cliche. it works.

what you need to do is: just go right up to her, tell her why you like her, and say you'd very much like to go out with her ,if that's ok with her. have a specific day in mind. and have some back up days in mind too, in case she says she's busy on the first day you offer. you want a specific answer if she'll go out with you or not. don't accept any "maybes" or "i'll think about it" from her. if she says that, it just means no. so might as well be sure to get a direct "no" if that's how she feels. if she rejects all of your back up days, then ask her to name the specific day that would be convenient for her.

[Albino Gorilla]

Just fricking talk to her. I'd assume you are still in school right? Talk to her about sports if she does any, is she in band or any types of school clubs? Those are good openers, after that it should really be up to you because you do not want to copy what someone else says.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

We actually do talk once and a while. We're in the same History (honors w00t) class (she has a 100, I have a 93 cause I don't do half the homework), and we're both in the debate team. She was one of the newest editions and after she kicked all aß in the lower house in the 3 house student congress ( i was the only freshmen in the upper house and I actually didnt do bad w00t), I was like "You did good, I'm proud to have you on our debate team" (yesterday the comp was last thurs) and she was happy so I was happy. anyway im rambling on right now so I'll just leave the advising in your gents capable hands.

btw shes also in Chorus and Madringals (I may join them next year just to ya know, be like, yeah. Plus I aint that bad of a singer)

[Fragony]

Ok, I'm being honest here, and looking for help.
I.e. flame me and die.


Anyway, there is this girl I know. She's smart, nice, cute (in the adorable not the *sharp whistle* way), beutiful, and cool. To make it better, she is one of the few people to see me for what I really am and not to judge me on first impressions (I tend to put of the impression of an insensative prick). And ya know, I'm pretty sure she likes me, almost definatly as a friend anyway.

Now, I'm planning on asking her out next week, right, but I am at a total loß. [thats loss], I had one GF before, and that was set up by a buddy of mine and lasted a grand total of 10 minutes before I dumped her. I won't go over the whole story, so what I'm asking is, how should I go about doing this?

Thanks for the support guys, it means alot to me.
-Kaiser

Kapo if you are a healthy young individual you couldn't care less about smart, cute and all these things that are supposed to be important. You want to get laid, and couldn't care less if it was her sister or even her mother. Be a jerk, They love that. When you finally say something nice she will think that all that jerkiness is just a facade and that you are in fact a caring person. Ha! A certain level of cynism is critical if you want to play.

[ICantSpellDawg]

my post was a totally hate filled rant agaisnt women - so i deleted it

[KukriKhan]

Planning is good - it helps you examine and set priorities, and chart a path to a target. But remember to not stick to it too rigidly...."No plan survives first contact with the target". Keep the plan in mind, but be ready to wing it also.

[English assassin]

No, I am definitely of the improvise school of thought here. You need a first sentence and/or excuse to talk to her at all, and you need an idea what you want to ask her to do (stop that sniggering in the Netherlands). Thats all.

Also if I may suggest ask her to do something that's not too hard work to start with. If you are a bit nervous, and think that maybe you could be witty and amusing for say half an hour tops, and after that you are worried, then go for a coffee (there's your half hour) and a movie (blessed silence, and something to talk about after). Go for a meal and you've got to make conversation for hours.

My advice is you DON'T need your mates, not if they were anything like my mates anyway.

And no disrespect and even noting that her Dad is in the Navy but I would tone down all the military stuff. Anyway, you should be asking her what she likes to do and how she feels about XYZ (Girls love questions about how they feel about things. ) Like I say, make her do the work. If you are asking her loads of sensible open ended questions and getting nothing but yes/no answers, then its a blow out anyway. You won't be able to turn it around no matter how brilliant your views on the demise of the big gun warship are.

Oh and by the way if she says something you don't agree with in response to your brilliant questioning do try to say "Yes I hadn't quite thought of it like that but don't you think..." rather than just telling her she's dumb. Even if she is dumb. ESPECIALLY if she is dumb.

[tibilicus]

Ask her out just do it. If she says no then just move on. If someone cant except someone for what they really are then theres no point doing it. In other words just go for it and be yourself !

[King Edward]

My method was to get drunk and dribble on her shoulder all night, and that was over 4 years ago!

Seriously though I never even asked my girlfriend out, we met at a friends party, got chatting, met again, i took her to lunch, few days later went to see a film, next week dinner, before i knew it we were spending every day together, and then after a few months we were spending every night together. Sometimes things that are ment to be just happen!

But I'm Just Lucky and Happy!

[King Edward]

Actually re reading my post makes me feel sick, man i got it bad.............

[Craterus]

Confidence is the best thing for "courting" lol.. go for it! Good Luck!

[The Stranger]

Kapo if you are a healthy young individual you couldn't care less about smart, cute and all these things that are supposed to be important. You want to get laid, and couldn't care less if it was her sister or even her mother. Be a jerk, They love that. When you finally say something nice she will think that all that jerkiness is just a facade and that you are in fact a caring person. Ha! A certain level of cynism is critical if you want to play.

don't listen to him Capo he is just jealous because he never had a date

[The Stranger]

oke be subtle, nice and a gentlemen but not too much cuz they'll think you're a big slimeball, most of all be yourself don't do or say things that later on you can't fullfil.
also be funny and relaxed.

[AggonyKing]

well before you ask her, take some flowers, aka roses, to give her when you ask her out. Let her now were is going to be and who's paying

but most important, if this girl likes you for being yourself, then be yourself, and yeah flirt a bit too.

[ah_dut]

well before you ask her, take some flowers, aka roses, to give her when you ask her out. Let her now were is going to be and who's paying

but most important, if this girl likes you for being yourself, then be yourself, and yeah flirt a bit too.

ayy my friend, great plan Unless you get slapped in the face straight off the bat happened to one of my friends...I nearly died of laughter

Oh well, just ask...find something you both like and just get on with it

[AggonyKing]

ayy my friend, great plan Unless you get slapped in the face straight off the bat happened to one of my friends...I nearly died of laughter

Oh well, just ask...find something you both like and just get on with it

yeah but I mean this kind of flirt "beautifull dress you're wearing today" "I really like that perfume" and "Your eyes are as beutifull as roses" yadayadadada