need advice about gals

[English assassin]

No, I am definitely of the improvise school of thought here. You need a first sentence and/or excuse to talk to her at all, and you need an idea what you want to ask her to do (stop that sniggering in the Netherlands). Thats all.

Also if I may suggest ask her to do something that's not too hard work to start with. If you are a bit nervous, and think that maybe you could be witty and amusing for say half an hour tops, and after that you are worried, then go for a coffee (there's your half hour) and a movie (blessed silence, and something to talk about after). Go for a meal and you've got to make conversation for hours.

My advice is you DON'T need your mates, not if they were anything like my mates anyway.

And no disrespect and even noting that her Dad is in the Navy but I would tone down all the military stuff. Anyway, you should be asking her what she likes to do and how she feels about XYZ (Girls love questions about how they feel about things. ) Like I say, make her do the work. If you are asking her loads of sensible open ended questions and getting nothing but yes/no answers, then its a blow out anyway. You won't be able to turn it around no matter how brilliant your views on the demise of the big gun warship are.

Oh and by the way if she says something you don't agree with in response to your brilliant questioning do try to say "Yes I hadn't quite thought of it like that but don't you think..." rather than just telling her she's dumb. Even if she is dumb. ESPECIALLY if she is dumb.

[tibilicus]

Ask her out just do it. If she says no then just move on. If someone cant except someone for what they really are then theres no point doing it. In other words just go for it and be yourself !