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    I think this is a very important question that needs to be answered if we ever hope to end this.

    *Note, i will not make a "a mixture of all" option because this is simply asking what is the leading factor in terrorism.

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    Ok i tried to think of any and all reasons ive heard as to why terrorism is so prevelent out of the middle east.

    I had to go with the Muslim religion itself.

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    It was a hard choice between the Muslim Religion, and the Arab Mentality, but since not all Muslim terrorists are Arabs, and all Arabs are not Muslims, I had to go with the Muslim religion.

    No doubt some of the more left-handed folk will choose Christianity, or imperialsim...
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    How about cults ie Fundamentalist Religion.

    After all the IRA are not Muslims are they?
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    Arab mentallity

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    I think terrorism is essentially criminal activity given a makeover. The Bader-Meinhof gang, the Red Brigade, the IRA, Che Guevara or any of the numerous middle eastern terrorist groups are just groups of people who are unhappy and inclined to violence. Whether they get their inspiration from Catholic martyrdom or the mentality of Islamic Jihad is secondary. They are rarely the downtrodden, and many are what we would call yuppies. They use the various causes to gain a celebrity status and to express violent and anti-social behaviour. The celebrity status is key to this and we see the same sort of thing in school shootings and the cults that grows up around serial killers. If the society within which they operate, offer this status to those who conduct themselves this way, you will always find them crawlingout of the woodwork.
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    How about cults ie Fundamentalist Religion.

    After all the IRA are not Muslims are they?


    Remember this thread is about Islamic Terrorism.

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    The number 1 contributing factor that leads to Muslim Terrorism is Muslim terrorists .

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    The election of GWB not once but twice

    I think youve left out the number one reason though. At least this is what Muslims will tell you. The Number one reason is The creation of the state of Israel.
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    The election of GWB not once but twice

    Hah.

    Israel is there.

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    I think youve left out the number one reason though. At least this is what Muslims will tell you. The Number one reason is The creation of the state of Israel.
    How do you explain Muslim terrorism from before the creation of the state of Israel then ? Including Terrorist campaigns that are still ongoing today that predate the creation of Israel by decades .

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    When the founder of your religion was a thief and a murderer to begin with, you don't have much hope in a peaceful coexistance with others that don't share your faith. Islam is the root from which this evil feeds.
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    Goodness knows there are a plethora of reasons, but I think one big one is that the Muslims have always been treated either as uncivilized animals, or at the very least as less than civilized. And certainly as less than equal.

    After a few centuries as being viewed and treated as barbarians, is it a surprise that some of them will act this way towards those they regard as their detractors?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beirut
    Goodness knows there are a plethora of reasons, but I think one big one is that the Muslims have always been treated either as uncivilized animals, or at the very least as less than civilized. And certainly as less than equal.

    After a few centuries as being viewed and treated as barbarians, is it a surprise that some of them will act this way towards those they regard as their detractors?
    Maybe if Muhamed did a little less sacking of cities, robbing caravans, and slaughtering anyone that did not proclaim him a prophet, then I might find a way to view Islam in a better light.
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    but I think one big one is that the Muslims have always been treated either as uncivilized animals, or at the very least as less than civilized. And certainly as less than equal.
    If the shoe fits wear it. Maybe they should act more civilized then. I would say they were treated like aninmals though nor do they deserve to be.

    After a few centuries as being viewed and treated as barbarians, is it a surprise that some of them will act this way towards those they regard as their detractors?
    I guess thats what the Celts had against the Romans. Im afraid compared to the west most arabs are barbarians. I believe they see us the same way.

    Israel is there.
    No its policies are. The creation itself is enough.

    How do you explain Muslim terrorism from before the creation of the state of Israel then ? Including Terrorist campaigns that are still ongoing today that predate the creation of Israel by decades .
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    I had to vote "Gah" because there was no "DevDave" option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    I had to vote "Gah" because there was no "DevDave" option...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    When the founder of your religion was a thief and a murderer to begin with, you don't have much hope in a peaceful coexistance with others that don't share your faith. Islam is the root from which this evil feeds.
    Wow, what a brave old man you are. Brave enough to inspires hatred in others that they'll try to kill you with...a suicide bomb.

    Certainly I could recognize this as a truly hateful and racism statement.

    Edit: I vote for Gah since there has never been a single greatest reason in anything. You can't possibly blame Israel alone, religions alone, or Goerge W. Bush alone.
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    Islam.

    In the Arab regions they fervently believe, and then they see their Imans telling them to kill non-Muslims, they do it. They do not believe non Muslims are totally human (refering to Jews as 'pigs', 'dogs' etc.), thus lessening any innate moral hesitation of killing another human.

    Goodness knows there are a plethora of reasons, but I think one big one is that the Muslims have always been treated either as uncivilized animals, or at the very least as less than civilized. And certainly as less than equal.

    After a few centuries as being viewed and treated as barbarians, is it a surprise that some of them will act this way towards those they regard as their detractors?
    The Native Americans were treated much worse, and they don't resort to terrorism. Nor do any of the other groups vilified by other peoples. The defining cause is Islam - and its glorification of killing non-muslims. By this I mean stating that any one killing the 'infidels' will go to paradise and have 72 virgins, and other such things.

    Besides, I find it extremely unlikely that they would harbor such a grudge for so long, even after they had stopped being called barbarians.

    Especially since the USA never went on any crusades, yet they hate us the most.

    One of the reasons this fever-pitched hate has gne on for so long in the Middle East is the rulers there using the US as a scapegoat to take attention off their corrupt, authoritarian regimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
    Wow, what a brave old man you are. Brave enough to inspires hatred in others that they'll try to kill you with...a suicide bomb.

    Certainly I could recognize this as a truly hateful and racism statement.

    Edit: I vote for Gah since there has never been a single greatest reason in anything. You can't possibly blame Israel alone, religions alone, or Goerge W. Bush alone.
    How is it racism? Islam is a belief, much like Nazism, hinduism, or any other belief. Is being ignorant or stupid racist as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    The Native Americans were treated much worse, and they don't resort to terrorism. Nor do any of the other groups vilified by other peoples. The defining cause is Islam - and its glorification of killing non-muslims. By this I mean stating that any one killing the 'infidels' will go to paradise and have 72 virgins, and other such things.
    Yeah, and look what happened to the Natives. Beaten and robbed until they practically don't even exist any more. Another hundred years and Native Americans will only exist in theme rides at Disney World.

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    Especially since the USA never went on any crusades, yet they hate us the most.
    Excuse me? Shall we list the countries the US "crusaded" against? Would you like them alphabetically or chronologically?
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    Yeah, and look what happened to the Natives. Beaten and robbed until they practically don't even exist any more. Another hundred years and Native Americans will only exist in theme rides at Disney World.
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    i object to using the word "Terrorism" in this case

    these Muslims are fighting in order to prevent their Holy Land from becoming desecrated by evil men. they are trying to stop their society from becoming an evil, disgusting, shameful, immoral cesspool like North America, Europe, UK, and most of the rest of the world is already

    they do this because they believe in God and morality. them standing up for what is right is not terrorism

    illegally invading Muslim nations, and trying force evil government systems down their throats, is terrorism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Baloney their all getting rich. You may have to visit them at their Casino though
    Well, you could argue that they were once the master of the lands that now makes up the USA. And now, they are literally slaves/caged and practically restricted by cultural reactions, at least (the cowboy stuff may've inspired some old "cowboy beats indians" things) and possibly legally, though I'm not sure.

    Edit: MAJORITY of them, not all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    How is it racism? Islam is a belief, much like Nazism, hinduism, or any other belief. Is being ignorant or stupid racist as well?
    Christianity is also a belief, and I'm sure many people before our time interpreted Christianity as "you are the chosen people and others are sub-human, especially Jews and Muslims."

    But some of you guys claim your universal rightfulness.

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    Well, you could argue that they were once the master of the lands that now makes up the USA. And now, they are literally slaves/caged and practically restricted by cultural reactions,
    And you could make the arguement that they were once poor savages living in tents and dying of disease. Now they are living in houses and many are getting rich. Once more the US is far from the most guilty in this respect. The Spainish were much worse. The English have terrorised minorities all over the planet.
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    After reading the posts here, it's no mystery why some Muslims attacked the US. Maybe "attitudes of conservative American computer game players" should be added to the choices.

    If conservatives don't want to be labeled bigots, why do they persist on making bigoted, ignorant statements?

    I'll bet Christians would win the competition hands-down in the number of people murdered and converted through force throughout the centuries.

    The conservatives don't seem to realize that the vast majority of Muslims have never committed a single act of terrorism, just as the vast majority of Christians have never bombed an abortion clinic.
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    Thanks for sticking up for a culture that would stone me to death if I get raped, Tachi. Why don't you go live with them? Have you ever seen a beheading in Saudi?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Islam.

    In the Arab regions they fervently believe, and then they see their Imans telling them to kill non-Muslims, they do it. They do not believe non Muslims are totally human (refering to Jews as 'pigs', 'dogs' etc.), thus lessening any innate moral hesitation of killing another human.
    Give me real facts please, not your image of Islam. After all, the Jews enjoyed considerable prosperity under Muslim rule everywhere during the Middle Ages, in which the Christian Europeans persecuted them. And this is not my word, actually, I read it from a history (NOT text) book completely concentrating on Spain, and not Muslim. So this statement at least comes naturally without actual strong bias.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    The Native Americans were treated much worse, and they don't resort to terrorism. Nor do any of the other groups vilified by other peoples. The defining cause is Islam - and its glorification of killing non-muslims. By this I mean stating that any one killing the 'infidels' will go to paradise and have 72 virgins, and other such things.

    Besides, I find it extremely unlikely that they would harbor such a grudge for so long, even after they had stopped being called barbarians.

    Especially since the USA never went on any crusades, yet they hate us the most.

    One of the reasons this fever-pitched hate has gne on for so long in the Middle East is the rulers there using the US as a scapegoat to take attention off their corrupt, authoritarian regimes.

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    You are still calling them, though not directly, barbarians by this statement, and Dave is doing it also.

    George W. Bush once declared he was going "to a crusade", of course, that political blunder has to fall upon his advisors who quickly came out to apologize. At least, that shows W.'s real attitude: crusade.

    Oh, and the virgin stuff, most likely, happens either because of modern propaganda by extremist Muslim groups or because of the Middle Age crusades, a "holy war" on both views but on each other as evil infidels. Oh, and the "Christians" were the invaders.

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    The conservatives don't seem to realize that the vast majority of Muslims have never committed a single act of terrorism, just as the vast majority of Christians have never bombed a abortion clinic.
    Im sorry but I believe that many Muslms although not terrorists themselves back these peoples actions. If they were really serious about it the terrorists couldnt function among them. You dont see Christaians preaching for a new crusade.
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