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    bartix' militarix will consix of such units as the Asiartix Taxeis (light militia infantrix), Pantortix Phalargitix (succesorix levy infantrix), the Bartix Spears, and Indo-Greek Hoplix. Of course, the Bartiox Hypaspix are some I like the best. Just wait until you see our Kataphraix!
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    Wat About Teh Xaxifaxiphrataxis? Yu Know! THE Whores With Most Armour????????????





    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    Sadly, we will not be featuring Xaxifaxiphrataxis in the bartix militarix. But you will get to see two versions of the Kataphraix!
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    OOOK Kalvin! That News Is Phantaxtix!!!!!






    now i'm here, and history is vindicated.

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    I really like the idea of armoured whores! Will they be featured in EB?
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    He might be some kind of Asterix & Obelix (and all those french play on word gallic names with 'ix') fan. Though even in French, Bartix and Ranix dont mean anything.
    Last edited by Meneldil; 05-04-2005 at 11:31.

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    Khelvan has his degree in the linguistics of crazy pointless 'abbreviations', which may or may not actually abbreviate anything. He's my hero. This thread... It brings great joy. ...But needs more pointless smilies scattered throughout it.
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    Ah. So Bartix is short for the real spelling... which is? Can't you just tell us what you mean? We obviously don't know... and is Ranix really shorter than Ranika?
    Sorry, we just don't understand you Abox.

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    Bartix has been presumed to be 'Baktria', but he keeps putting an 'r' in front of the 't', so it's hard to say. Bartix may be some completely imagined faction (much like he imagined that Armenia was dropped).
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    My money's on Bactria. But Khelvan, couldn't you guys add some Bartix units to EB? Like an Easter Egg? If the Expansion opens up any faction slots, Bartix should definately be on top of the list..

    Just where IS Bartix anyway..?
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    If Bartix is Baktria, it's on the east edge of the Seleucid's land. If it's some egnimatic alien nation, we've determined Uranus. The expansion may include a Bartixian invasion, but I don't know what units they'd have.
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    Ranika, you're hilarious
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    (Or, as the Prussians interpretated it:
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    Austria will one day be lowest in the world.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Temple
    My money's on Bactria. But Khelvan, couldn't you guys add some Bartix units to EB? Like an Easter Egg? If the Expansion opens up any faction slots, Bartix should definately be on top of the list..

    Just where IS Bartix anyway..?
    That's a WICKED idea! Maybe EB could add a cheat code to get a big Bartixian Phalanx or something. Of course, they'd need to be aliens.

    Wow, two points for Temple.

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    seems that the folk of EB actually have some humour hidden under the mask of seriousness....


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    so whats units do armenia have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormy
    ROTFL

    Soooo adequate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abokasee
    so whats units do armenia have?
    Since this is understandable as a question and although I'm not the Armenian expert, I'll ty to answer it.

    Armenia will have a mix of specific, steppe and regional units.

    Every one of these categories will be recruitable in a different manner. Logically, regionals will only be available in certain areas and hireable by every faction that conquers the province.

    As for the units themselves, I'll wait for our Armenian experts to reply to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abokasee
    so whats units do armenia have?
    Basic unit list for Armenia.

    Rhamikspas Spearmen
    Ayrudzi Light Horse
    Shinakan Slingers
    Razmig Spearmen
    Aspet Cavalry
    Malhazutyun Royal Guard
    Mardig Swordsmen
    Shinakan Archers
    Naharar Royal Cataphracts
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
    -- John Stewart Mills

    But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abokasee
    so whats units do armenia have?
    See! Now, was that so hard?

    Now lets all give each other a big, warm, friendly hug. Come one, feel the love! You know you want to..
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrukin
    Basic unit list for Armenia.

    Rhamikspas Spearmen
    Ayrudzi Light Horse
    Shinakan Slingers
    Razmig Spearmen
    Aspet Cavalry
    Malhazutyun Royal Guard
    Mardig Swordsmen
    Shinakan Archers
    Naharar Royal Cataphracts
    That makes as much sense to me as what Abokasix says... and I'm part of the team
    I'm still not here

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    Quote Originally Posted by eadingas
    That makes as much sense to me as what Abokasix says... and I'm part of the team

    Originally Posted by sharrukin
    Basic unit list for Armenia.

    Rhamikspas Spearmen
    Ayrudzi Light Horse
    Shinakan Slingers
    Razmig Spearmen
    Aspet Cavalry
    Malhazutyun Royal Guard
    Mardig Swordsmen
    Shinakan Archers
    Naharar Royal Cataphracts


    Quote Originally Posted by eadingas
    That makes as much sense to me as what Abokasix says... and I'm part of the team
    Oh, Eadingas that is very sad! You haven't been paying attention in class!

    Malhazutyun Royal Guard
    The Malhazutyun are the royal guard that was traditionally organized and headed to the house of Khorkhoruni.

    Ayrudzi Light Horse
    Ayrudzi means horseman

    Razmig Spearmen
    Razmig means Fighter

    Mardig Swordsmen
    Mardig means Warrior

    Shinakan Archers
    Shinakan Slingers

    shinakans are peasants

    Rhamikspas Spearmen
    ramiks (Rhamiks) are plebeians or the middle class.

    Aspet Cavalry
    aspet means knight

    Naharar Royal Cataphracts
    The nakharars (Naharar) were the princely lords of the country.

    We could add Bartix Heavy Infantry I suppose?
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
    -- John Stewart Mills

    But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
    LORD ACTON

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrukin



    Ayrudzi Light Horse
    Ayrudzi means horseman
    Ayrudzi actually means "lion's". Ayrudz means lion, and Ayrudzi is the possesive of lion.

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    This thread got it all -- it went from total confusion to slapstick to standup to serious historical discussion!

    I'd almost put it on my favorites.

    Almost.


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    Heh, heh. If this doesn't go in your favorites, what is in there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderland
    Ayrudzi actually means "lion's". Ayrudz means lion, and Ayrudzi is the possesive of lion.
    Well I am not a native Armenian speaker so I am not going to take any hard and fast position on this. From various websites I found this as well as having had this mentioned by someone else on the forum. Of course large numbers of people saying something stupid doesn't make it clever.

    Are you a native Armenian speaker as we could certainly use one of those to go over some of these things. If you are not then why are you certain this word means lion? I would like to see this corrected if it is incorrect.

    The Roman historian Sallustius Crispus wrote that the Armenian [Ayrudzi - lit.
    horsemen] Cavalry was "remarkable by the beauty of their horses and .

    the Armenian warrior horsemen [the Ayrudzi] would continue down the many
    millennia, distinguishing itself in the battlefields throughout the centuries,

    Armenian army in particular the regiments of horsemen were 'remarkable by the
    beauty of their horses and armor' ( Ayrudzi, literary means-the horsemen. .

    ( Ayrudzi, literary means-the horsemen. Horses in Armenia, since ancient times
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
    -- John Stewart Mills

    But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
    LORD ACTON

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    Yes, I am a native Armenian speaker. I was born in Armenia and it is my first language, along with English (if you can call it that). I'd love to help out with the mod if possible, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderland
    Yes, I am a native Armenian speaker. I was born in Armenia and it is my first language, along with English (if you can call it that). I'd love to help out with the mod if possible, sure.
    Where did you get the information on the Ayrudzi?

    Could you find (old Armenian if possible) the Armenian word for;
    Armenian has been infuenced by Turkish so try to avoid thoses if you can.

    Standard (flag)
    Bearer
    Spear or Spearmen
    Light
    Horse
    General
    Guard
    officer
    Sling or Slingers
    Cavalry
    Royal
    Sword or Swordsmen
    Archers
    Cataphracts

    We have a some of these already but to confirm them and get the ones we do not have.
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
    -- John Stewart Mills

    But from the absolute will of an entire people there is no appeal, no redemption, no refuge but treason.
    LORD ACTON

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharrukin
    Where did you get the information on the Ayrudzi?

    Could you find (old Armenian if possible) the Armenian word for;
    Armenian has been infuenced by Turkish so try to avoid thoses if you can.

    Standard (flag)
    Bearer
    Spear or Spearmen
    Light
    Horse
    General
    Guard
    officer
    Sling or Slingers
    Cavalry
    Royal
    Sword or Swordsmen
    Archers
    Cataphracts

    We have a some of these already but to confirm them and get the ones we do not have.
    Well it's not really "information" I got, lol. It's just the word. I use it everyday... or... at least when I have to refer to something that belong's to a lion..... As for all these other ones, if you could post up the ones you already have, it'd be easier to just see if their correct. The rest, I'll try to find some stuff, 'cause they're not exactly everyday words.

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    Standard (flag) - Droshag (duh-ro-shag)
    Bearer - Standardbearer is Droshagageer (duh-ro-shag-ah-geer)
    Spear or Spearmen - spear is Nizag (nee-zahg); spearmen is Nizagamartik (nee-zag-ah-mar-teek); singular spearman is Nizagamart.
    Light - No real word to fit the way it's supposed to be meant here...
    Horse - Dzi is the regular word for horse. Njouyk (nuh-jewy-k) is more gallant...
    General - Sparapet
    Guard - Tiknapah (teek-na-pah)
    officer - Spa (like health spa)
    Sling or Slingers - sling is Bars. doubt there is a word for slinger... your best bet is Barsamartik. Barsamart for singular.
    Cavalry - Dziavor (dzee-ah-vor). That's more singular, like a cavalryman, but it should do. Ayrudzi Dziavor would be Lion's Cavalry... sounds pretty cool.
    Royal - Nakhararakan (na-kha-ra-ra-kan).
    Sword or Swordsmen - sword is Soor; swordsmen is Sooseramartik (soo-seh-ra-mar-teek); singular swordsman is Sooseramart.
    Archers - Agheghanet (agh-egh-ah-net)
    Cataphracts - Aspet is probably best for this.


    I spelled them the way I assume it would be in Armglish I suppose. My dad and grandpa told me a couple of these, the more proper ways of saying them. The sling I got from the Armenian translation of the Bible (David vs Goliath section ) If I find any better words for the ones I've put, I'll put those up too. But the ones you already posted are pretty good ways of putting them.

    Malhazutyun Royal Guard
    The Malhazutyun are the royal guard that was traditionally organized and headed to the house of Khorkhoruni.
    I haven't heard of this word or whatnot, so I can't say either way. Dad or grandpa haven't either. I doubt it's just a regular word. Probably more of a specific meaning, like a certain family. But the suffix of that word (utyun) is throwing me off because it denotes more of a trait... blah... can't explain...

    Ayrudzi Light Horse
    Ayrudzi means horseman
    As I said, the literal translation for ayrudzi is "lion's". But I suppose the units could be called Lion's Horsemen or Lion Horsemen, as it could be used in a symbolic way.

    Razmig Spearmen
    Razmig means Fighter
    Fighter or soldier.

    Mardig Swordsmen
    Mardig means Warrior
    Same as above. Azatamardig means freedomfighter, so mardig is fighter.

    Shinakan Archers
    Shinakan Slingers
    shinakans are peasants
    Literally translated, shinakan means builders, but also means peasant.

    Rhamikspas Spearmen
    ramiks (Rhamiks) are plebeians or the middle class.
    Confirmed.

    Aspet Cavalry
    aspet means knight
    Yup...

    Naharar Royal Cataphracts
    The nakharars (Naharar) were the princely lords of the country.
    Accurate also.

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    Could anyone post up or PM me a full list of the Armenian units that will be in? Maybe I could help more specifically with that. Just like the English names of whatever it's gonna be, like spearmen or whatever like that.

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