Camp Map

**Ianofsmeg16** · 05-24-2005, 18:03

hi,

you going to include the isle of man as a seperate province?
no particular reason except i live there so it'll be funn to build up castle rushen (our big castle lol)

**ShadesWolf** · 05-24-2005, 18:29

you going to include the isle of man as a seperate province?

Not sure yet, it might all depend on how many provinces we end up with. I was considering Isle of Man, Isle of Wright as well as spliting Anglesey. Once we have the provinces detailed we can add a few more to fill in the gaps.

**Moros** · 05-24-2005, 18:32

Just a question but wich regions/cities will be there in the Netherlands (The Sounthern and or Northern)
if you include flanders you schould move the timeframe to 1302 else Flanders will be under control by the french 1300-1302 ("guldensporenslag")

**ShadesWolf** · 05-24-2005, 18:51

if you include flanders you schould move the timeframe to 1302 else Flanders will be under control by the french 1300-1302 ("guldensporenslag")

I dont really want to take the campaign back any further than 1328. I appreciate that 1302 was an import date as it represents the Flemish victory in the battle of courtrai.

I am already looking at having Burgundy as in independant factions, even though the Valios Dukedom did not come into existance until 1364 (ish) with the reign of Philip the Bold.

I see Flanders as being a similar idea, By 1340 the Flemish townsmen entered the English allegiance, prompted by economic interests and by the desire to have the rebellion against their count legitimised. Thus in Ghent in Jan 1340, Edward declared himself king of France, thus allowing legally flemish support as they were supporting the King of France.

Just a question but wich regions/cities will be there in the Netherlands (The Sounthern and or Northern)

I am open to suggestions on this point, How many provinces should be split the area into. Do you think four would be ok, or should we have more ?

I want to also include provinces that will later become part of Burgundy, thus Brabant, Hainault, Luxembourg, Lorraine etc.....

**Moros** · 05-24-2005, 19:08

well no 1328 is good I just read somewhere that your start date would be 1300 and that wouldn't be an Ideal start dat would it.
Well I would even split Fanders in two areas since it's all ready a small faction and since ther were two verry big and ecomically strong cities: Ghent and Brugge. Their regions should be named Brugse ommeland or Kustvlaanderen/Coastal-Flanders(Brugge) and Eastern Flanders (Ghent).

**ShadesWolf** · 05-24-2005, 20:42

Update 24/05/2005

I have relooked at the low countries, after a conversation with Gertgregoor, we have decided that Flanders should have two provinces, these will be Bruges and Ghent. I have also modified the map to redraw Artois and Picardy.

The new map includes a rebel province for Holland/Zeeland, a province for Hainault and two provinces for brabant (Brussels and Antwerp). I have also created a rebel province for Liege (The county of Loon)

Ile De France has been slighly changed to remove its link to Picardy, the area is now assigned to Champagne.

**Templar Knight** · 05-24-2005, 21:31

The only good map I could find that shows the states of Italy - hope it helps with choosing the provinces.

**Duke Malcolm** · 05-30-2005, 20:40

Map's looking good still, although perhaps the Scottish and Irish regions could do with a little tweaking...

**Ianofsmeg16** · 05-26-2005, 20:20

Originally Posted by ShadesWolf

Not sure yet, it might all depend on how many provinces we end up with. I was considering Isle of Man, Isle of Wright as well as spliting Anglesey. Once we have the provinces detailed we can add a few more to fill in the gaps.

i would advise you to go with the whole IOM thing, why, 'cause the isle of man (if u look REALLY carefully) is strategically placed in the centre o the british isles, two words. Invasion plan

**Duke Malcolm** · 05-26-2005, 21:45

You read my mind. When/If the mod gets completed, I was going to take the Isle of Man as Either Scots or the Isles, and invade the surrounding countries...

**Narayanese** · 05-27-2005, 01:49

I think this map is better, it show italy in year 1300

**ShadesWolf** · 05-27-2005, 05:44

Originally Posted by Narayanese

I think this map is better, it show italy in year 1300
http://faculty.cua.edu/pennington/Ma.../Italy1300.JPG

Actually that is a very good map, and will be helpfull, as it shows us provinces. Thankyou very much

I will have a look over the weekend using the two maps to knock something up for Italy.

Thanks again all that have contributed.

**ShadesWolf** · 05-27-2005, 22:03

update 27/05/2005

The italian Provinces have now been added, this will allow for the four factions to have enough rebel/neutral areas to expand into.

I have also redrawn the swiss factions province and added a few additional islands off th Uk coast.

I believe this is now the completed map, with maybe a few minor peaks if reqd.

Any comments would be appreciated.

The next task will be to alloc names toeach privince, and for somebody to volunteer to have ago at converting this into a campaign map.

We will need to allocate cities and port for each province also.