Investigation of unit retraining

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screwtype, Thracians and Bastarnae are identical in looks, one costs 1700 and one costs 800. And yes they happento be side by side at times.

Obviously I missed the distinction. I assumed because they were identical looking they were the same unit. My apologies.

The evidence is there. There is no cost increase for an experienced unit yet it gets the recruits at the level of the unit average. This should of course be on the list as it makes the game too easy for us

Okay, I've just gone and reloaded some of my saved games and checked through the retraining costs of various units. It seems there is no clear relationship after all between unit experience and retraining cost, so I may have been wrong about that. However, something very weird is going on, because I am definitely getting very high retraining costs for some units. Before I actually did this careful check, I just assumed it was due to higher experience because I couldn't see any other reason for it.

I should point out before posting these results that I checked carefully for variables that might be altering the unit costs. I made sure there were no generals in the cities where the retraining was being done, and that there were no experience or weapon upgrades available in these cities. I even tried moving units around from one city to another to see if their unit costs changed (they didn't).

It's true that some of the units I tested may have been merged with other units at some stage but the xp points on the unit facing do after all reflect the average xp, so they can't be too far out.

Here are the results I got for each unit checked.

Greek Levites. Standard cost 230 denarii per 40 man unit = 5.75 average cost per soldier.

Unit Exp -- Average Cost per retrained soldier

0 -- 5.73

1 -- 5.73
1 -- 5.74
1 -- 5.75
1 -- 5.75
1 -- 5.76
1 -- 5.76
1 -- 5.76
1 -- 5.8
1 -- 6.72
1 -- 7.82

2 -- 5.75
2 -- 5.76
2 -- 8.8
2 -- 8.9
2 -- 10.5
2 -- 15.5
2 -- 43

3 -- 5.75
3 -- 6.72
3 -- 8.33
3 -- 11.13

4 -- 9.67

Prodromoi (mounted javelins). Standard cost 350 denarii per 27 man unit, or 12.96 per soldier.

1 -- 12.57
1 -- 16.4
1 -- 27.8 (This unit had a weapon upgrade as well as 1 xp)

2 -- 12.58
2 -- 14.2
2 -- 15.1
2 -- 63

4 -- 14.05

Peltasts. Standard cost 200(?) per 40 man unit, or 5 denarii per soldier.

2 -- 20

Now if you can make sense of those results, you've done better than me

Edit: Since posting those results, I have noticed one pattern, which is that all the weirdest results (results of 15 denarii plus) were for units which had less than 10 men who needed retraining.

However, I'm quite sure that the results are not always too high when there are less than 10 men who need retraining. Usually such units only require a few pennies to retrain, as you'd expect. So I really don't know what's going on.

Is anyone else experiencing weird unit retraining costs like this?