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    That would probably be the best option, a rebellion does seem slightly temperamental.
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    Then this might cause us a problem ,As I dont think you can make a faction appear at a given date, This is somethimg we will need to look into.
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    What caused the War or the Roses, then? Perhaps we could set several armies to appear when those conditions have been met?
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    was the war of the roses not caused because of the weakness of the government following the hundred years war defeat?

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    In a nutshell yes. After his defeat in the HYW, Henry VI began to deterioate mentally. Through a series of well calculated political moves Richard Duke of York became the kings chief advisor and in simple terms grabbed the thrown. His ambitions lay with a animostity he had towards the Lancastarian dynasty for sending him to Ireland to become the lieutenant there.

    N.B The Lieutenantship of Ireland was normally seen as a military apprenticeship for young nobels (such John Talbot), but for a man Richards age it was just a way of keeping him out of the political scene.
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    Oh and and of course Richard was a Plantagnet (they generally didnt like the Lancastarians, probably because of the whole usurping thing ). Duhhhhhhhhhhh.
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    Below is a list of the factions that I think we should include. we only now need to decide on which Italian ones to use, if any?


    #France
    - Burgundians
    - Normans
    - Armagnacs

    #Brittany
    #Flanders
    #England (York)
    #England
    #Scotland
    #Lordship of the Isles
    #Navarre
    #Swiss
    #Brabant
    #Genoa
    #Milan
    #Savoy
    #Venice
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    Genoa, Milan, and Savoy.
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    First off all you couldn't use flanders as one of the french faction as it was Britons ally and France enemy since they wanted independence. Later by marriage it became burgundy's cause the leader (Don't know the proper englisch word) had only one daughter.

    second: Brabant? Don't know your not going to find much info about this believe me! therefor I think rebel is a better option so Flanders could conquer something without having to fight directly with the much bigger french factions. This wasn't even independant I think in that time period.

    Third: Burgundy wouldn't follow French commands from paris since they wanted only to become more powerfull even if an alliance with britons was needed. And they became even verry hostile when trying to connect their properties in flanders with those of burgundy and wich faction would be between those two do you think?
    France.
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    Ive been doing quite a bit of reading over the last few days about the history of Burgundy for this period and its has opened up a few more avenues for factions.

    Does anybody have any objections to adding a few Iberian factions, ie Castile and Aragon as we have space on the map to cover part of the kingdoms ?
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    Thats sounds good. I believe that some of the Iberian factions had an involvement in the French civil war, so its appropriate to include them. Especially if theres room. But is there room for there own set of units?
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    Exclamation Independance - Onafhankelijkheid !!

    I support the idea of at least one Flemish faction. But why not adding Brabant to Flanders ? Margaretha, daugther of Jan III , duke of Brabant was married to Lodewijk van Male, count of Flanders ( however Johanna, her sister, got the duchy and was married to Wenceslas, duke of Luxemburg )



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