That is what everyone thought until 1994 when they found Holmgård a few miles north of Novgorod (they are still digging). It grew and needed more space and the people of Rus relocated to what is today Novgorod (the new place/farm) also what its name indicates.
Cant see that this in any way makes your case stronger. In your previous posts it sounded as Holmgård had been relocated hundreds of kilometres. Now you admit that is not the case, thank you.

Why does the name imply new? Usually it is translated with as "the new town" -because it grew and took over the role of other older centres like Staraja Ladoga and Gorodische.

Yes the ever disputable source of names. Well I don’t agree.
Have you read anything on this dispute?
The Russians have disputed over the source of this name quite a while now. There is no agreement.
Two camps: the pro normanist and the anti normanist.
(note: there are no pro swedes )
Oh, you dont agree, well that certanly helps your case
Do you know what happened to Russian (Soviet) researchers who did not write "good" history about the russians? Giving swedes or norwegians or any other people part of credit for the founding of russia was not possible. This have changed...

The chronicle states: the Varangians were known as Rus, just as some are called Swedes, and others Normans and Angles and still others Gotlanders, for thus they were named.
Well then this crushes your theory about the word varjag and the peninsula bearing the same name.... because they cant be both rus and varjag can they? It definatly does no make them less from sweden. And gutarna from gotland were very well established in holmgård with surroundings, maybe rurik came from there I dont know.

What would you call fact? What is written or what is found in the ground as archeological evidence?
Well since I dont know about the russian colonisation of norway and never heard of it in spite of much studying on this part of history i will not call it fact until it is proven to me.

If we eliminate all names and all theories and just look at geography.
Yes lets do this. Tell me what route to Holmgård is closest and easiest - the one from present day sweden into the gulf of finland and riversystems inland to the settlements or the way from north of norway around the kola peninsula crossing the white sea and then through a longer inland riversystem Not even your relocation of Novgorod makes the journey easier then the one from sweden

The journey from sweden has also been undertaken many times in modern time in "reconstruction travels" proving it was indeed a very possible journey.

The name Rurik is a Slavic version of the Norse name Hroerekr.
Do you agree with this?
The oldest son of Harald Hårfagre was Hroerekr or Rørek as we in present day Norway calls him.
He was a Norse prince that fought battles in Slavic territory. It is found in the Norse version of Kringla heimsins.

What can you tell me about the Swedish version of Rurik?

The general agreement of today is that Rurik came from Friesland. What would be your objections to this?
Yes, I checked again and this time found a Rörik in the list of Haralds sons. I must give in on that. He was not the first son though, that was Ålov according to the same source. Same source also tells me that Rörek spent his time with his father - allthough i didnt reread the entire thing for this debate so maybe it says somewhere he was fighting in the east im not sure. But of course this does not make Haralds son the Rurik who is mentioned in the Nestorchronicle.

Rurik was a common name in Sweden into the middle ages and is still used today by a small number of swedes, dunno if the present day ruriks were givven that name at baptism or if took it later as some sort of nationalistnostalgia though.

The norse version of Heimskringla? So you mean the word norse means norwegian? Lol. Norse has more to do with nordic. Norse mythology (odin ) is not norwegian mythology.

The general agreement? LOL i thought you were trying to make the case he was from Norway lol, which way are you gonna have it??? Fact is one can not be certain where Rurik comes from. Most likely from some part of Sweden though - and about the RUS there is a general agreement that they came from somewhere in present day Sweden

The Varangians that the Slavic people of the White Sea talks about are the Norse they dealt with on a daily basis, and you said it yourself that this was old news.
Uummmm i said it was old news that the contact between people in lappland, kola peninsula and prolly white sea region was with norwegians. But again - Holmgård and Novgorod is very far from there and much closer to the swedish areas with whom they dealt with on a daily basis. And they also talk about varangians - doesnt make them norwegians.


I will tone down the Odin matter as there is no possible way I could convince you to “believe”…
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