So it lookslike most people are plying RTR mod or the SPQR mod I have been thinking about theRTR mod but going to the mod forum is pissing my off most of the time I cant log in...So i will try the SPQR.....I dont like my games to be so real that they are no fun..It is a gam anyway so feel it should be more fun that follow History because History is all a point of view of the winner not what realy happen just look at US history the land of the free.......lol so funny...well thanks guys fo your input.... But i must say L`zard your a good sales man if it was not for the site i would play that......but i have them all just did not know which one i should try will try the add-on also