The Cossacks 2 gameplay thread.

[Leet Eriksson]

I got the game but freaking hell i can't win a skirmish map on normal, or anything else for that matter, the enemy either overwhelmes me, or in the case of preset battlefields the enemy is put in an advantagous position that no matter what i do my forces get wiped out.

I know there are members who have the game, but if they wouldn't mind and explain how to play this game i'd be pleased, step by step if you wouldn't mind. How to build a base, what to recruit and how many squads, how do i deal with the resources gaurded by militias and such.

Also the units (lets take the french for example) whats the difference between fusiliers and national gaurd? Dragoon and Hussar?..etc

Thanks in advance.

This thread is not restrictly about helping me, its about gameplay in general, if you have something to post you are welcome.

[econ21]

Faisal, I found a good presentation of the unit stats on the web. The link is on my work computer and I'll post it on Monday if you don't find it but it should not be hard to find through a google search (that's what I did). Unlike the absurd Imperial Glory stats posted here, the stats in Cossacks seemed fairly intuitive, although there were some oddities. IIRC cossacks - in reality in the period irregulars not much good for open battle - are the best cavalry. I suppose one should forgive that in a game called Cossacks 2, but for me it was enough to take the game off my buy list.

I'd be interested if anyone could persuade me it's worth playing. The fact that you are losing makes it sound more interesting (after RTWs low difficultly level), but are you losing because the computer fights well or because it rushes better than you? I'd really like a TW type game with good Napoleonic battles, but don't really want a traditional RTS.

[lars573]

http://cossacks.heavengames.com/coss...ts/index.shtml

This is the Cossacks 2 unit viewer from cossacks heaven.

Also C2 (cossacks 2) is in RTS games a game that favors turtling over rushing. In this game he who builds biggest fastest, has no guarantee of victory. In fact it's a guarantee of defeat.

Ok the difference between french fusiliers and national guard is morale. National gurad will break and run much sooner than fusiliers. Historically the french national guard was the reserve/militia of France made up of 14-17 yearolds. Fusiliers are the fully trained regular 18-30 yearold line troops.

The difference between Hussars and Dragoons is that Hussars are light cavalry, and Dragoons are medium/heavy cavalry. Also Dragoons have a carbine musket while Hussars have a blunderbuss (IE a shotgun). As light cavalry Hussars are lightning quick but are only good at attacking infantry in the flank/rear. Heavy cavalry like Dragoons and Cuirassiers can attack infantry frontally with enough XP and from the flank if they aren't that experienced.

For playing the game well you have to understand something about the Cossacks AI, they never comprehend failure. If you defeat an attack the AI will keep throwing troops at your's till they win or are beaten. So when they pick an avenue of attack they will always come that way till they win. So if you beat back an advance put all your troops where that attack came from, quickly. Also at the very start cheat for resources, press enter and type in deposits to get 50000 of each resource. First thing you should do if que up 40 peasnts to gather wood and stone. Then send your starting peasnats to build 1 or 2 barracks when their built que up 480 fusiliers/musketeers, if your one of the 3 empires (France, Austria, Russia) que up 240 militia troops (National guard, home guard, landwehr) and 240 fusiliers. Build an acadamyand a pallace, and at the same time send 2 companies of militia or musketeers to capture more resource villiages. As soon as you can build more fusilier companies, then some voltigeurs and chasseurs. Then after you have all the military buildings up build stables and foundries. Also when your infantry companies get depleted station them near a villigage of yours and they will be re-stocked automatically. Hope that helps, also see me posts in the Cossacks 2 thread for directions on combat.

Here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=46221

[Leet Eriksson]

Simon: I'm still a newb to this style of game, i think either the AI is intelligent or i'm not reacting as quickly(ie dumb), the AI doesn't rush, they send in formations of troops and they don't charge mindlessly, blundering is not an option in this game, 2 enemy fusiliers (240 men) defeated my small army of 45 hussars, 120 fusiliers and 120 national guards, which was a pretty sad site for me :p

Usually when you place a troop in line, the enemy also does it in the green region of your units line of sight, which has a miss rate of 70%+ or more. Effectively the fight is a stalemate at this point, no one side will advance unless the other side fires, and the computer is very patient, it sent a unit of light infatry at me (highlanders) and i countered with my own (national gaurds) while i waited for them to shoot, the enemy pc took the time to build another unit this time musketeers and came in and crushed my national guards, i tried saving the day by sending uhlans but i don't know whats their purpose so i charged them and they got killed..i didn't post much of a threat after that

lars573: thanks alot, i didn't know half of the stuff i could use in cossacks 2 i guess i'll go and give it a try though isn't there a strategy without cheating?

[lars573]

Hmm, you people down on cheating the AI cheats anyway. The starting resources you get should be enough, probably more than enough, to get 40 peasants and 2 fusilier companies. Just get your peasants on gathering wood and stone quick. These resources are used to upgrade the mining and farming towns you have so they gather more food metal and coal. Every upgrade for a villiage is double the miners/famers.


Also I usually cheat when my resources are running low. Say any one under 10,000 or so.

[Leet Eriksson]

Yeah the AI gets everything together real fast, i don't play fair anymore :p, just cheat and build a lot of units.

I also got down to playing the egyptians today, their archers are kinda awkward to control and most of their units don't need drummers, actually i think only yataghans and janissaries need them. On another note, i noticed once your units get full experience (something like 3 lines and 3 triangle like thingies ) they start to really become killing machines, i could route 3 fusiliers, 2 dragoons with 1 fully experienced mameluke cavalry.

I still can't figure out how to let my limbers move cannons around, they don't seem to move at all