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Fellas, i think larger battlefields and far distances between armies which in STW and MTW were better than RTW. Why? Coz distances gives many tactical opportunities to the player.

I think RTW battlefields too flat. When you fight huge unit option you will never make a proper manouver! Armies very close to each other. Its make me crazy.

Why red lines? Why are you limiting playground? Where is positioning, hiding the troops, surprise element? STW-MTW battlefields had great potential for tactical operations...

Our primary point is:
1- distances between armies.

2- weak foliage and geographical elements of battlefields.
* just compare historical battles and campaign battles. first cleverly reflected and enriched with many forests (gergovia), heights (trasimene), river passings and hills . Just remember Telamon, Trasimene and Trebia nearly all of them was really perfect and wisely designed...

3- small battlefields for huge/big sized armies. no proper maneuvering. you could just ramming to your opponent. clash of the titans nothing more!

So, if the designers made ordinary campaign maps like historic battlefields... We don't need to write such as this topic...

TW Fan Cloudnine wrote that message as a Reply

In this relevant old thread - forums.totalwar.org/vb/sh...ge=1&pp=30
Jerome Grasdyke of CA claimed the battlefields were twice the size of those in MTW. This is simply not true for normal battles - the usable area is in fact smaller. I`ve measured them at 1KM square, with a deployment zone only 800 metres wide.
(Jerome Grasdyke of CA)

"The viewable area is a actually a little larger than 9 battlemaps though - it's actually a grid of 17x17, with the playable area at the center, and the battlefield size is currently 2km x 2km... make 'em much bigger and it just gets too hard chasing down the enemy, make 'em smaller and the larger cities don't fit"

"As with many other things about games prior to release we're still experimenting with this, so take it all with a grain of salt, but right now the playable area is a little less than double Medieval's size - 2 x 2 km rather than 1.2 x 1.2 km.

The battlefield size is a pretty important gameplay balancing thing - smaller battlefield = quicker, more intense battles, larger battlefield = more realistic, but slower paced, and occasionally annoying when enemies go missing. It's a question of tweak, tweak, tweak until it's right"

The problem is with a battlefield only 800 metres wide, and the enemy about 300 metres away from you at the start, there`s simply no room to manoevre larger armies on Huge unit size.
When I saw Time Commanders I was really impressed by the large battlefields, troops marching up and deploying into position before engaging etc. The retail game bears little resemblance to what I hoped I`d be getting - hope falsely boosted by the programme and Jerome`s claim that battlefields would be twice the size of Medieval TW. They are in fact 1/4 the area claimed (1 square Km not 4 square Kms)

The crazy thing is that for seiges, Tuetoburg Forest and multiplayer(?) we can have the large 2Km square battlefield. So why not for normal campaign battles? It doesn`t make any sense that they are deliberately limited, although Jerome`s comment on "smaller battlefield = quicker, more intense battles" is an indication.

Small battlefieds + fast moving units + fast kill rates & routs = battle over in a couple of minutes, which is what CA seem to think we want
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lt1956 form TOTALWAR.COM
I agree Larger maps are needed, I always play Huge settings and in SPQR HUGE is the optimized setting for the game. I too noticed lack of room for movement, unless you are righti n the middle of a forest there usually isnt anywhere to hide forces etc, because the maps are very small for 6000+ men even 4000. It would be nice to see in the expansion the following.
I could say one thing many of fans especially who plays TW series since STW they don't like RTW battle system. I'm one of them.

So, mates what do you think. Especially i will be happy if i get a official satement from CA staff.

Sincerely