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    Default Re: Ten reasons why creation scientists don't believe in evolution

    NOOOO! PAPE why did you change your ultra-cool avatar!?!?

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    You cannot prove everything in maths (axioms and such).
    Of course you cant thats why theres postulates and therums. Its also why I said some math.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Of course you cant thats why theres postulates and therums. Its also why I said some math.
    Are maths axioms universal?
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    Are maths axioms universal?
    I dont know but as axioms they are not part of what Im speaking about. Im talking basic math.
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    Default Re: Ten reasons why creation scientists don't believe in evolution

    Maths is only exact within boundary conditions.

    Example one.
    1010 in Base Ten is one thousand and ten.

    1010 in Base Two is ten. The boundary conditions have changed so a different result is found.

    Example two.
    A triangle has a total internal angle of 180 degrees. This is true only on a flat surface.

    If you drew the triangle on a sphere the total internal angle would change.

    Maths is only right within a very tight set of rules. This is the same for most sciences, the larger the scope of the boundary conditions the less it is likely to get an 'exact' (high probablity) model.
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    Yes I agree with all that. Whats your point?
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    IMDHO

    Science is not absolute as people assume.

    Some areas are more precise then others. But there is a tendancy for the broader the boundary conditions (the more the particular theory/model covers) the less exact it is.

    The Theory of Everything is still just a goal. While the tighter boundary conditions on the four basic forces means that we have a more precise model of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Of course you cant thats why theres postulates and therums. Its also why I said some math.

    Thats why when mathematicians say "clearly" and "obviously" means that they cant prove it but they hope it is like they say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
    NOOOO! PAPE why did you change your ultra-cool avatar!?!?
    Because after getting to 6k posts I felt like a change and the Geisha while colourful was already taken...
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