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Shrapnel 06:48 05-10-2005
So, wishes for the upcoming expansion pack? Also it should have a preview of the net Total War in it! And so what wuld everyone like for the next Totalwar?

I personally would like a Napoleoinc Total War, I think that would be cool. But that's just me.

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Proper Gander 19:33 05-10-2005
OH NO!! someone from ZURICH!!!

*logs out immediately, never to return*




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Shrapnel 05:30 05-11-2005
It's ok, i'm not swiss, i'm British. All the swiss are wierd. I just live in Zürich.



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Byzantine Prince 05:41 05-11-2005
The upcoming expansion pack will indeed be Barbarian Invasions. I beleave it' been confirmed. Damn swiss!

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Proper Gander 11:32 05-11-2005
Originally Posted by Shrapnel:
It's ok, i'm not swiss, i'm British. All the swiss are wierd. I just live in Zürich.

i'm british too, i just HAD to say something like that, because of this stupid rivalry.
i will probably be going to Zurich this weekend actually! to celebrate my birthday, better parties up your end! (NO... not THAT END!!)

and the swiss ARE weird, yes.

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Reverend Joe 05:43 05-12-2005
There's a rivlary between Britain and Switzerland? That is wierd. I thought you Britons hated the French more than anyone. As for the swiss, I thought they just hated everybody.

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Temple 08:39 05-12-2005
Actually, I think the rivalry is between Zürich and Basel..

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Foot 15:03 05-12-2005
Info on Barbarian Invasion From PCGAMERUK

- Not here until the autumn
- Set as Rome begins to fall 363AD
- Mini campaign that should only last 20 hours
- Ten factions to play as
- Each faction has their own objective
- Three factions mentioned:
...- Saxons who must invade and take Britain while Rome retreats
...- Huns (no objective given)
...- Rome (no objective given)
- Can choose to wait to attack at night if you are the army attacking
- Light troops can swim across rivers but will be dangerously exposed and tired upon exit
- And Romans can build elephants

Oh and there is a really disturbing picture of a unit of priests with clubs. I'm not entirely sure if that is particulary historical. (But the Saxons look incredible).

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The Stranger 15:44 05-12-2005
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince:
The upcoming expansion pack will indeed be Barbarian Invasions. I beleave it' been confirmed. Damn swiss!
oh now you're not a hippiefobic any more mister starts to hate swiss

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Shrapnel 15:47 05-12-2005
Originally Posted by Foot:
Info on Barbarian Invasion From PCGAMERUK

- Not here until the autumn
- Set as Rome begins to fall 363AD
- Mini campaign that should only last 20 hours
- Ten factions to play as
- Each faction has their own objective
- Three factions mentioned:
...- Saxons who must invade and take Britain while Rome retreats
...- Huns (no objective given)
...- Rome (no objective given)
- Can choose to wait to attack at night if you are the army attacking
- Light troops can swim across rivers but will be dangerously exposed and tired upon exit
- And Romans can build elephants

Oh and there is a really disturbing picture of a unit of priests with clubs. I'm not entirely sure if that is particulary historical. (But the Saxons look incredible).

Sounds fab. can you post the screens please?

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Furious Mental 16:08 05-12-2005
I was rather hoping they'd do a expack set in the late empire. If it starts in 363 AD, hopefully it will have the Eastern and Western Empire in it, plus the Sassanids. I have a question for the history buffs here- what sort of troops did the Romans use att hat stage? I heard their infantry equipment was rather different to that of the legionaries in the era R: TW covers.

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eadingas 16:15 05-12-2005
They were moving out of using infantry altogether, towards using auxilia and mercenary cavalry, especially after Adrianople.
Seeing as the game is supposedly started at the year of the Great Split, I'd say there will definitely going to be two empires.
Too bad I won't be able to play as Julian, my favourite emperor... I think that will be the first thing I mod :)

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Mongoose 17:08 05-12-2005
Looks good, but not worth 35 dollars. Maybe it will start looking better at E3

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Dux Corvanus 17:17 05-12-2005
Originally Posted by :
I have a question for the history buffs here- what sort of troops did the Romans use att hat stage? I heard their infantry equipment was rather different to that of the legionaries in the era R: TW covers.
Yeah, armament and organization changed a lot after Constantine. Roman Empire soldiers from the era had a strong medieval taste, and the use of barbarian client troops was the rule. You should see no more lorica segmentata around there...

Originally Posted by :
Oh and there is a really disturbing picture of a unit of priests with clubs. I'm not entirely sure if that is particulary historical.
Agh!

Originally Posted by :
Too bad I won't be able to play as Julian, my favourite emperor...
An apostate! A pagan! So naïve...!

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The Wizard 17:22 05-12-2005
Ah, but by 363 there was already a difference between East and West... East using armies that were increasingly more alike to those of their Sassanid neighbors.

Man, I can't wait until we can take this expansion to historical accurateness. The Sassanid Persians are my favorite historical subject!



~Wiz

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Temple 17:46 05-12-2005
Wow.. Seems like the Exp will indeed suck, just like I predicted.. Shame, really..

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eadingas 18:47 05-12-2005
It will supposedly release limit on faction numbers. That's all we need to make it NOT suck :D

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Ranika 18:53 05-12-2005
Imagine the joy we could implement with increased faction numbers. There are so many factions worth adding I could almost cry. Just hope they raise the model limit too.

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Spino 19:38 05-12-2005
Originally Posted by eadingas:
It will supposedly release limit on faction numbers. That's all we need to make it NOT suck :D
Well if this is the case that opens up a whole slew of options for modders. They can finally implement true 'minor factions' in the game such as single province city states, minor kingdoms, tribes and the like.

Increasing or doing away with the faction limit would be great but my biggest concern for RTW:BI is whether CA has taken great pains to improve the strategic and tactical AI, especially the latter.

But where did you hear/read this? Linkage man! I demand linkage!

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The Stranger 19:56 05-12-2005
Originally Posted by Furious Mental:
I was rather hoping they'd do a expack set in the late empire. If it starts in 363 AD, hopefully it will have the Eastern and Western Empire in it, plus the Sassanids. I have a question for the history buffs here- what sort of troops did the Romans use att hat stage? I heard their infantry equipment was rather different to that of the legionaries in the era R: TW covers.
THE EAST and WEST ROMAN EMPIRE wil be in it, as are the sassanids. look at the Colloseum for more info

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Furious Mental 20:27 05-12-2005
Thanks for the heads up.

Crossbows?

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Foot 15:14 05-13-2005
















These are the screenies from the magazines DVD.

As for linkage, I can't link to a paper-based publication. But it was the UK edition of PCGAMER, and the June Issue I believe (the latest one anyway).

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eadingas 15:26 05-13-2005
Are these chariots with ballistae on them??
And..um... the holy order of Christ's Clubmen?
Weird...

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SwordsMaster 16:29 05-13-2005
Originally Posted by eadingas:
Are these chariots with ballistae on them??
And..um... the holy order of Christ's Clubmen?
Weird...

Havent you seen Constantine? They are exorcists.... or something...

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eadingas 16:33 05-13-2005
You mean Constantine the Great? ;)

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SwordsMaster 16:36 05-13-2005
Originally Posted by eadingas:
You mean Constantine the Great? ;)

No, Keanu Reeve´s film Constantine.

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eadingas 16:36 05-13-2005
I realized that... tried a bad pun there...

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Alexander the Pretty Good 16:40 05-13-2005


I think I will need a better computer to take full advantage of this. Is it just me or do some of the skins (like the germanic? one - the second pic) look really nice?

And I can see the need for an EB mod of this already.

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eadingas 16:46 05-13-2005
Don't you remember preview screens for RTW? They were heavens better than anything you could produce in actual RTW on even best machine. I suspect the same here... notice how they use everywhere flaming arrows, flaming missiles, etc. all to inspire a sense of awe and divert our attention from things like those weird peasants with pitchforks in the siege picture...

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jerby 17:31 05-13-2005
yeah, just lik those damn revieuwists:"the great engine of RTW can pump out a great 100,000 units" or "this is a deep strategic game that is not fo rthe simple minded"

i think everybody who is becoming a paid revieuwer should first take an IQ test...

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