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    From the colosseum ,if somebody hasn`t seen it yet:

    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid Sidekick
    Just to clear up some mis-information in the news releases about BI.

    There are no Vikings - The reporter must have got mixed up with Saxons.
    The Saxons do not have horns on their helmets

    The Romans dont have a chariot, its a Carrobalista.

    The Priests are about as effective in a fight as a peasant but they can bolster the morale of nearby troops.

    The game starts in 363 AD and finishes in 476 AD. Each faction has its own victory conditions, unless you want to win by world domination in which case just keep playing.

    Playing the Western Empire will be rather tricky as you will have to deal with barbarian hordes, a lot of disloyalty and corruption, as well as an empty coffer and some Christian unrest.

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    Originally Posted by Intrepid Sidekick
    Just to clear up some mis-information in the news releases about BI.

    There are no Vikings - The reporter must have got mixed up with Saxons.
    The Saxons do not have horns on their helmets
    Nor did the Vikings.

    The Romans dont have a chariot, its a Carrobalista.
    It's not its historical existence, but the role this exotic item plays, how it is used, and what importance is given, what worries me.

    The Priests are about as effective in a fight as a peasant but they can bolster the morale of nearby troops.
    Priests shouldn't be effective in any way. I have never seen a regiment of priests, and they're supposed not to fight -at least in their quality of priests. This Real Time Strategy classical item, just stinks. What a shit.

    The game starts in 363 AD and finishes in 476 AD. Each faction has its own victory conditions, unless you want to win by world domination in which case just keep playing. Playing the Western Empire will be rather tricky as you will have to deal with barbarian hordes, a lot of disloyalty and corruption, as well as an empty coffer and some Christian unrest.
    Christian unrest? Julian the Aposthate had just died. The main Christian unrest I know in the era was produced by the cismatic spreading of arrianism and other heretic movements among goths. I wonder what they understand as "Christian unrest", but after seeing those armies of evil Inquisitors and the naïve concept they seem to have about early Christendom, I fear the worst.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
    the cismatic spreading of arrianism and other heretic movements
    Arrianism was no heresy, it was a last attempt to stick to the original Christian belief that among the catholics and orthodox was destroyed in the series of church meetings in the 5th, 6th and 7th centuries. The arrians only stuck to the Christian teachings that also those who later became orthodox and catholic had once admitted but found it useful to abandon, unless I'm remembering it completely wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegioXXXUlpiaVictrix
    Arrianism was no heresy, it was a last attempt to stick to the original Christian belief that among the catholics and orthodox was destroyed in the series of church meetings in the 5th, 6th and 7th centuries. The arrians only stuck to the Christian teachings that also those who later became orthodox and catholic had once admitted but found it useful to abandon, unless I'm remembering it completely wrong.
    You remember it completely wrong. It had nothing to do with an original belief, but about the creation of a more complex and uniform doctrinal corpus to support and lead the growing Christian community. Those 'church meetings' were the concilia, universal debate meetings that joined representants from all the Christian world. Arrian of Alexandria was a bishop that negated the consubstantiality of Christ and God the Father. In the Nicea concilium of 325 AD, all church representants admitted this consubstantiality and adopted the Trinity dogma, which had been a constant teological topic since the early times. Arrian's doctrine was condemned as heretic, and he was exiled. One of his followers, bishop Ulphilas, preached Christianism among the germanic tribes, and thus arrianism converted into both Goths and Vandals version of Chriastianism, and a sign of identity against the influence of Greek-Roman Christian world.

    Arrianism was an heresy since it was condemned as such by the successive concilia. And the topic about Trinity and the double nature of Christ, and how to concile this with monoteism, was a hot sophisticated debate that had nothing to do with the earliest Christian doctrines of St. Paul and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dux Corvanus
    It's not its historical existence, but the role this exotic item plays, how it is used, and what importance is given, what worries me.
    unless they finally give all cavalry and chariost a different speed it will get messed up. cause if they dont we got ourselves a new Horse Archer...or flanking tool since chariost in vanilla were unstoppable

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