RTR - Removing the Britons?

[Simetrical]

As if removing the britons wasn't enough, one of their modders proceeds to explain how some cultures are more historically significant than others, as if he's a archaelogist or history professor. Quite infuriating actually to read something like that, the rtr people seem to be pretty heavy handed and now culturally biased.

The Britons did not do anything whatsoever of note in the time period of 280-1 BCE. They never even attempted to expand, or even to start wars. Sure, they traded, they resisted invasions, but that can be represented well enough by rebels. You really don't need to be a history professor to figure this stuff out.

Anyway, this is totally off-topic.

-Simetrical

[Vortygern]

The Britons did not do anything whatsoever of note in the time period of 280-1 BCE. They never even attempted to expand, or even to start wars. Sure, they traded, they resisted invasions, but that can be represented well enough by rebels. You really don't need to be a history professor to figure this stuff out.

Anyway, this is totally off-topic.

-Simetrical

Lol, why should something like whether or not your on topic bother one of the brilliant, infallible, incredibly wise and all knowing members of the illustrious RTR team?

[TheJian]

Well I think they do good work I hate the name its something that the community should say about a mod not the makers anyway............Vortygern that’s the thing about History people come at it from their own perception( or book they read) we all do this…Is this History No its “His Story” No matter if your white, black, red, yellow, Christian, Jew or Muslim …I always thought I understood what happen to the Native Americans till I examine Dee Brown's Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee or Chancellor Williams book The Destruction Of Black Civilization and many others… You have a small percent of the world interrupting the History of the world….. (TV is very powerful and school books)Even the History of Chain is diff coming from an Asian person ….Look still at the so called Boxer Rebellion like it’s a rebellion because you don’t want drugs…lol. The point is you really cant tell other what is true History if your not coming from a world view and not culture point of view…..I am not saying who is wrong or right I don’t have they right…but if you feel that way give him some info…Its never about the Mod its about changing peoples point of view from culture to world view….IF I did not play games or Mod because people got history (His Story right) wrong I could never play any games because most people think Africa was backwards when If you really read (try They Came Before Columbus by IVAN VAN SERTIMA) you would have a diff outlook at life well perhaps not but that’s not the point…..I never define a people by war most people did not have to leave there own land to find resources….Thus no need to subjugate other… And You really don't need to be a history professor to figure this stuff out…

[Myrddraal]

Lol, why should something like whether or not your on topic bother one of the brilliant, infallible, incredibly wise and all knowing members of the illustrious RTR team?

Vortygern, please keep your critism constructive, don't just start flaming other mods pls. Thx.

[Vortygern]

I totally agree with you Jian, that's why I declined to argue the point. Most of history, especially classical and pre-classical is comprised of various levels of arguements.

The thing is, the modders of rtr are doing exactly what your talking about. They are totally choosing to relegate one civilization (one of the core civilizations of the game) to a back water and replacing it with other civilizations that they arbitrarilly choose.

I know it's their mod, and they can do whatever they want. Just as they have that right, I have the right to call them on it and criticize what I feel is a very poor choice.

I guess my biggest point is that if they are choosing to ditch core factions from the game in such a heavy handed manner, what else are they doing?

I hope you don't feel that this is unconstructive criticism Myrddrall. It's the best I can do without getting bogged down in an endless debate about what civilization is more historically significant. My view is that the core civs of RTW should have been left alone minus the extraneous roman civilizations.

Well I think they do good work I hate the name its something that the community should say about a mod not the makers anyway............Vortygern that’s the thing about History people come at it from their own perception( or book they read) we all do this…Is this History No its “His Story” No matter if your white, black, red, yellow, Christian, Jew or Muslim …I always thought I understood what happen to the Native Americans till I examine Dee Brown's Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee or Chancellor Williams book The Destruction Of Black Civilization and many others… You have a small percent of the world interrupting the History of the world….. (TV is very powerful and school books)Even the History of Chain is diff coming from an Asian person ….Look still at the so called Boxer Rebellion like it’s a rebellion because you don’t want drugs…lol. The point is you really cant tell other what is true History if your not coming from a world view and not culture point of view…..I am not saying who is wrong or right I don’t have they right…but if you feel that way give him some info…Its never about the Mod its about changing peoples point of view from culture to world view….IF I did not play games or Mod because people got history (His Story right) wrong I could never play any games because most people think Africa was backwards when If you really read (try They Came Before Columbus by IVAN VAN SERTIMA) you would have a diff outlook at life well perhaps not but that’s not the point…..I never define a people by war most people did not have to leave there own land to find resources….Thus no need to subjugate other… And You really don't need to be a history professor to figure this stuff out…