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    Default Re: Europe warns Iran... well sort of...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    ...selling Hitler nukes.
    I don't think we need to bring him into this discussion about IRAN.

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    I dont give it much longer.
    I think a few student protests do not make a country unstable. Look at South Korea, they had plenty and are still around. Can you please justify ?
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    Ok we should have sold them to Stalin then and shared all our technology with him. After all he was our ally was he not? By your criteria N Korea is a stable country. What you not taking into account is that the leaders of these nations are UNSTABLE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    ... Stalin ... N Korea ...
    Again you are bringing other countries into the equation.

    I think Iran's leaders have been resolute in it's current policy and it's current program is aimed at generating power not pursuing nukes. This indicates stability.

    As I said previously, this is about "oil" denomination in US Dollars. Iran is planning to sell it's oil in Euro's in March 2006 and this rhetoric is just a "smokescreen" for trying to prevent this. The Euro is more stable than the US dollar currently, so moving to Euro will help it remain stable.
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    I think Iran's leaders have been resolute in it's current policy and it's current program is aimed at generating power not pursuing nukes. This indicates stability.
    On what do you base this? BPs post that Irans minister of the interior says its against thewir religion? How does this indicate stability. Do you even know whats going on in Iran with the younger people?
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    Basing a form of government on religion or god is unstable ? How ?
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    Basing a form of government on religion or god is unstable ? How
    Once more and Ill try to type slowly so you understand me What is it that makes you so sure they only want it for nuclear power when Ive shown you it would be better for them economicly and certainly politically to use oil generators?
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    Well burning "fossil fuels" is environmentally unfriendly and using nuclear power is "cleaner"

    from this article

    "In Paris last week, U.S. Ambassador Constance Morella told conferees that nuclear energy was "clean" and "reliable" and necessary in order for the world to have a "secure energy supply."

    Mohammad Saeidi, a vice president of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, delivered more or less the same message to the conferees.

    Oil and natural gas "are limited and belong to all subsequent generations" and "unrestrained use of this source of energy is not prudent," he said.

    Iran's goal, Saeidi added, is nothing less than "self-sufficiency in all aspects of the peaceful use of nuclear energy."

    So even the US supports the use of nuclear power. Iran is simply doing what the US supports
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