Europe warns Iran... well sort of...

[Don Corleone]

Well, in a roundabout way, it makes sense... They're sitting on one of the largest reserves of oil in the world, but they know as well as anyone it's not renewable. It would be in their best interest to see it's rate of consumption reduced.

That being said, do any of you really believe Iran really looks at it this way? Let's come clean here... Iran wants a nuclear bomb. Either you're arguing they should have one, or you're arguing they shouldn't. Let's quit with all the clever parlor tricks, shall we?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Well, in a roundabout way, it makes sense... They're sitting on one of the largest reserves of oil in the world, but they know as well as anyone it's not renewable. It would be in their best interest to see it's rate of consumption reduced.

Come on how much enrgy does Iran use. It would be an insignificant amount of oil and as I said it would be cheaper to import either foriegn oil or nuclear fuel than to produce their own. You right its really about whether one believes they should be allowed to have nukes or not.

[Don Corleone]

Come on how much enrgy does Iran use. It would be an insignificant amount of oil and as I said it would be cheaper to import either foriegn oil or nuclear fuel than to produce their own. You right its really about whether one believes they should be allowed to have nukes or not.

I think it's pretty clear from my post that I believe neither Iran, nor their supporters in here look at it this way, but I am a big proponent of nuclear power (something I've always admired about the French) and will take my chance for shameless plugs were I can.

[Tribesman]

I said it would be cheaper to import either foriegn oil or nuclear fuel than to produce their own.
Which is why Europe is meeting with them next week (with American approval)to regulate the importation of nuclear fuel so there is no need for the Uranium gas production that Iran is proposing , and no spent fuel sitting around for 10 years as it would be under the Russian deal , that way it removes any charade about "peaceful" enrichment programs or stored fuel going missing .
All that aside if that fails then it goes to imposing sanctions (unless some idiot thinks an invasion would be a good idea) . China will block any UN sanctions (abolish the veto) .
So lets face it nothing is going to be done .

Personally I think they are well on the way to developing nuclear weapons and there is bugger all that can be done to stop them . So all the political pressure and threats from around the world ain't worth a damn .
You only have to look at the different treatment Iraq and N. Korea recieved to see why a country feels the need for Nukes for its own security with this wonderful new world order of "Might is Right" . Not that it is anything new , but all the other regimes that have followed that "Might" line have ended up crumbling under the financial burden .

[Don Corleone]

Thank you Tribesman. Refreshing touch of honesty in this thread.

I would argue there's more than 'bugger all' we can do, if you'd all just simply join our trade embargo, Iran would most certainly start paying a little more attention, but hey, that's the EU's decision to make, not mine. Just don't say you don't have options. Nobody says you need China's approval to put sanctions on them. You only need China's approval to put UN sanctions on them.