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    I said it would be cheaper to import either foriegn oil or nuclear fuel than to produce their own.
    Which is why Europe is meeting with them next week (with American approval)to regulate the importation of nuclear fuel so there is no need for the Uranium gas production that Iran is proposing , and no spent fuel sitting around for 10 years as it would be under the Russian deal , that way it removes any charade about "peaceful" enrichment programs or stored fuel going missing .
    All that aside if that fails then it goes to imposing sanctions (unless some idiot thinks an invasion would be a good idea) . China will block any UN sanctions (abolish the veto) .
    So lets face it nothing is going to be done .

    Personally I think they are well on the way to developing nuclear weapons and there is bugger all that can be done to stop them . So all the political pressure and threats from around the world ain't worth a damn .
    You only have to look at the different treatment Iraq and N. Korea recieved to see why a country feels the need for Nukes for its own security with this wonderful new world order of "Might is Right" . Not that it is anything new , but all the other regimes that have followed that "Might" line have ended up crumbling under the financial burden .

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    Thank you Tribesman. Refreshing touch of honesty in this thread.

    I would argue there's more than 'bugger all' we can do, if you'd all just simply join our trade embargo, Iran would most certainly start paying a little more attention, but hey, that's the EU's decision to make, not mine. Just don't say you don't have options. Nobody says you need China's approval to put sanctions on them. You only need China's approval to put UN sanctions on them.
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    Reprocessing is sensible management of spent fuel making waste storage easier by separating out materials which can be differently, or separately stored/disposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwitt
    Reprocessing is sensible management of spent fuel making waste storage easier by separating out materials which can be differently, or separately stored/disposed.
    They're called breeder reactors for a reason, and it's not so they can breed 'materials which can be differently stored/disposed'. If you think they should be allowed to build breeder reactors, you're arguing they should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. There's no way to hold them back once they do.
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    If they had nuclear weapons ... would they use them for defense (deterrent) or attack (pre-emption)?

    Who set the precedent for pre-emptive attack ?

    We will feel safer if they have them ? Probably not.

    Hence we should not allow them to develop technology that allow them to. So reprocessing can be sent back to Russia or France. So I retract the "reprocessing" bit.
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    You see you can change peoples minds here. Nice to see as long as they move in my direction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Corleone
    They're called breeder reactors for a reason
    They are called breeder reactors because the breed (create) plutonium.

    Plutonium can then be used easily for energy. It is also horrendously easy to turn plutonium into warheads.
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