No in fact it is the oldest oneOriginally Posted by bmolsson
The most modern religion is called money.....
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No in fact it is the oldest oneThe most modern religion is called money.....
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yup that's right. have been thinking to put that in too. cuz if you have money you can buy yourself out of most worries. that's why the most "so called" atheists are in rich lands, and cn't understand why there are people that believe in a godNo in fact it is the oldest one
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I understand why people believe in God(s), they are a nice way to give you hope, relieve worries and give your life direction, but I personally cannot accept the notion that there is a diety, especially after all the bad things religion has done.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
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Or the lands might be rich because they base their ideas on verifiable facts rather then unverifiable ones.
Knowledge is power. Knowledge that is not allowed to be tested defeats the purpose.
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It's probably a chicken and an egg problem. On the one hand, some people got very rich out of religion but at the same time religion does seem to be at its strongest in areas of poverty.
Its the bad things that people do in the name of the religion, but people also do many good things in the name of religion. God gave mankind free will on the belief that mankind would make mistakes, but that it would learn that from these mistakes and grow to be stronger. You can't blame God for the deeds of evil men.I understand why people believe in God(s), they are a nice way to give you hope, relieve worries and give your life direction, but I personally cannot accept the notion that there is a diety, especially after all the bad things religion has done.
Parents let their children play contact sports because they're fun. There's a high chance that at some point their children will be hurt. When they do so, can they argue that their parents were being negligent?
Cowardice is to run from the fear;
Bravery is not to never feel the fear.
Bravery is to be terrified as hell;
But to hold the line anyway.
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[QUOTE=Its the bad things that people do in the name of the religion, but people also do many good things in the name of religion. God gave mankind free will on the belief that mankind would make mistakes, but that it would learn that from these mistakes and grow to be stronger. You can't blame God for the deeds of evil men.
Parents let their children play contact sports because they're fun. There's a high chance that at some point their children will be hurt. When they do so, can they argue that their parents were being negligent?[/QUOTE]
Would religious people still do those good things without religion, if so religion is in a practical way more trouble than it is worth. In my opinion fanatical devotion to a religion, especially a religion with militant roots, is far too dangerous to make up for it with the gtood things done by some religious people.
By dangerous I mean harmful, oppressive and such not that religion threatens me or anyone in particular as a concept.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
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When people do evil why not lose faith in Man not God?
Our genes maybe in the basement but it does not stop us chosing our point of view from the top.
Pape for global overlord!!
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but the religions is invented by people to still there hunger for might. the bible is written by people to make people think what they're doing is good, cuz it is written in the bible.
so in some way yes religions are dangerous, but are gods dangerous, i don't think so. people use gods as excuse to do things that aren't right. people use gods to explain things they can't understand. now we all know where lightning comes from, and why it rains and stuff. but when religion was invented they didn't. so the used rituals to make the gods happy. so are now the gods dangerous or the people who follow the people that want might, and use the religions as a excuse to do so.
Last edited by The Stranger; 05-17-2005 at 08:27.
We do not sow.
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If religion is just what makes you feel overwhelmingly happy/at ease I have not found Jesus. (Jehova's witness reference for those without the door to door "Have You Found Jesus?"ites.)
Back when science was in its infancy and religion was the main source of answers I would probably have been an ardent deist of some religion, but today...
Well I have never had faith and the contradictions inherent in almost all religions are just another reason for my enthusiastic Atheism.
I never siad gods are dangerous, though if they existed they would be. But I think religion is definately dangerous and in some ways I hope that it will shrivel up and die, though I would never make any action towards this end because I respect other's beliefs. I think it would reflect much better on humanity if we did not require religion anymore to tell us to look out for our neighbors and be responsible and helpful members of society.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
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yeah or they're rich because they used religion to supress other people, and said it was good because their religion said so.
like this.
we should go get some slaves
why?
because it is our duty as a good christ to let these barbarians get in touch with our god.
this could be a reason why they're rich dont you think
We do not sow.
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Nope, the oldest religion is called pussy......No in fact it is the oldest one
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grantedNope, the oldest religion is called pussy......
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Why dont we seperate god and religion? Even if we dont believe in a higher spirit doesnt mean it does not exist and vice versa.
And just a thought. Who told us that god is our babysitter? some sun stroke desert beggars? most of the evil on earth doesnt need divine intervention (not the Slayer album) but HUMAN.
Did god ordered any war? any abuse? i dont recall that. Now if some jerks in robes did for their own reasons, its not God's matter IMO.
We dont need god to stop killing each other. We know what the problem is, we just close our eyes. My opinion about church is known. They exchanged the old gods for the new nothing else changed. 90% of christian rituals are based on ancient ones and most religions are based on older philosophies and beliefs. Religion is a way to contact god somekind of phone. If the phones are broken that doesnt mean the location we are calling does not exist.
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good speech
btw
that is a bit what i said, there is (or shouldn't be) a religion. cuz if there is a thing that makes you feel good, forget all your worries and makes you go on with oyur life than that's your god. so you can have multiple gods ofcourse.
you don't have to convince people that your god is better. cuz maybe your god doesn't make the other man happy.
We do not sow.
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