Not being able to have any evidence of something is a very good reason not to believe in it. It's like you can't disprove the existence of the Lockness Monster, it's a weak example I know, but still.
Not being able to have any evidence of something is a very good reason not to believe in it. It's like you can't disprove the existence of the Lockness Monster, it's a weak example I know, but still.
59.57% of the org needs visits from the thought police
Why do you hate Freedom?
The US is marching backward to the values of Michael Stivic.
There is no evidence for a god or gods and plenty to disprove the ideas of the faithful. I also find it hard to believe that there is one superpowerful being and the writers of the Bible knew what he was thinking during the creation, besides "This is good!" What the hell is that?
Oh and as a side not I hate other people much less an all powerful being controlling me.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
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Go ahead. I am intrigued to see what disproves the existence of God...Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin
It was not theirs to reason why,
It was not theirs to make reply,
It was theirs but to do or die.
-The Charge of the Light Brigade - Alfred, Lord Tennyson
"Wherever this stone shall lie, the King of the Scots shall rule"
-Prophecy of the Stone of Destiny
"For God, For King and country, For loved ones home and Empire, For the sacred cause of justice, and The freedom of the world, They buried him among the kings because he, Had done good toward God and toward his house."
-Inscription on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior
Dunkin Donuts Dunkacino.Originally Posted by King Malcolm
The bloody trouble is we are only alive when we’re half dead trying to get a paragraph right. - Paul Scott
Well Darwin (evolution), fossil evidence that we were not around since six days or so after the Earth formed, the fact that I have not been struck down or plagued with horrible bad luck (generally good luck in fact.) and the fact that despite eating from the Tree of Knowledge many people are favoritist imbeciles. Though perhaps in-breeding due to only a few people around at the beginning lowered that and the distance from those granparents as well....
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
I don't see how evolution disproves God. It merely suggests that the creatures put on the Earth aren't the same as they were when it was created.
It was not theirs to reason why,
It was not theirs to make reply,
It was theirs but to do or die.
-The Charge of the Light Brigade - Alfred, Lord Tennyson
"Wherever this stone shall lie, the King of the Scots shall rule"
-Prophecy of the Stone of Destiny
"For God, For King and country, For loved ones home and Empire, For the sacred cause of justice, and The freedom of the world, They buried him among the kings because he, Had done good toward God and toward his house."
-Inscription on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior
The THEORY of Evoloution. The definition of theory is it is something that is very likely but is NOT proven 100%Originally Posted by Uesugi Kenshin
In my opinion nothing can be proven 100% therefore my atheism is excused.![]()
Not this again...the theory of evolution is a scientific theory. In the same way that the theory of gravity is a theory.Originally Posted by evil_maniac from mars
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His/her/its own failure in proving its own existance.Originally Posted by King Malcolm
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Id say our own complex existence is evidence of a diety, or at least intelligent design.
I would say that Man is God. In any case, none of the gods from which the world can choose can possibly be the creator figure simply on historic grounds.
Life has been around millions of years therefore a certain degree of complexity in the larger many celled organisms is to be suspected. Saying something is too complex to evolve over millions (or more) years seems a bit like a cop-out to me because there has been plenty of time for the tree of life to prune itself of bad organs and such. (using a phrase from Darwin Awards books.)
Ok, so evolution disproves ID and such but does not disprove God. However, it does an excellent job of disproving the Christian creation myth. BTW I do not use the word to be offensive to Christians, I regard all religious tales that are not very well based in facts to be myths.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
What about the existence of Complex Regional Pain Syndrome? Does that prove intelligent malicious design?Originally Posted by PanzerJager
my existence is quite simple..![]()
now i'm here, and history is vindicated.
The Greek gods are the coolest deities you could find anywhere on Earth. That's why Greek culture is sooooo popular! Have you ever heard of Aphrodite committing adultery with Ares, or Zeus who both fears (and feared by) his wife, Hera?
That's soooooo cool!
In other words, their legends proves the fact that, unless a deity comes out and proves his/herself's existence - I would consider the belief in supernaturality as a whole as a reflection of human nature, and not what regulates human nature.
I concur Antiochus. Dionysus being by far my favorite. I love him, he's so damn cool. If he existed I'de pray to him.
It's said he was so powerful that when he was trapped by pirates once he blew them all away with just a flicker. He is also the least built god. Very relaxed, like me. Yet so powerful, he could destroy anything.![]()
Personally I would pray to multiple Gods if I believed in the ancient Greek religion. Nike for victory, Athena for Wisdom and others, can't remember them all at the moment. Artemis was the patron of Sparta and what did she stand for? The hunt and what else?
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
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Remarkably Kenshin they stood for a zillion more things then they are famous for. Dionysus for example is also the god of orgies and violence(whilst in drunken rage). A good way to find out is to just search them on line. They are all very interesting and most imporatantly very flawed.
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Orgies? you mean in roman era. Anyway Greek theology is sooo complicated that you can get lost in all those different interpretations of the myths. Im reading lately 2 books. ''A history of greek religion'' by M.P Nilsson and ''History of ancient Athens from mythic years to pelloponesian war'' by S.I Kargakos. Guys my head hurt from overloading! I mean so many explanations and interpretations that even me a greek that grew up from infancy with those stories can get comfussed some times.Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
μηνιν αειδε θεα Πηληιαδεω Αχιληοs ουλομενην
I disagree heartily. The Celts, for example, had no goddess of love - instead, they just had every goddess figure have an active sexuality. Adultery was no big deal in the land of plaid.Originally Posted by AntiochusIII
Sumerian and Egyptian mythology are also very interesting. They provide a mind-bending scope on how different things were before Christian morality was mainstream.
Well I knew they stood for many different things, however, that is what I( would be praying to them for. I was just wondering what else Artemis controlled.
"A man's dying is more his survivor's affair than his own."
C.S. Lewis
"So many people tiptoe through life, so carefully, to arrive, safely, at death."
Jermaine Evans
link - pantheon
Oooh a virgin.The daughter of Leto and Zeus, and twin sister of Apollo. Artemis is the goddess of the wilderness, the hunt and wild animals, and fertility (she became a goddess of fertility and childbirth mainly in cities). She was often depicted with the crescent of the moon above her forehead and was sometimes identified with Selene (goddess of the moon). Artemis was one of the Olympians and a virgin goddess. Her main vocation was to roam mountain forests and uncultivated land with her nymphs in attendance hunting for lions, panthers, hinds and stags. Contradictory to the later, she helped in protecting and seeing to their well-being, also their safety and reproduction. She was armed with a bow and arrows which were made by Hephaestus and the Cyclopes.![]()
yes i believe in God
it baffles me that any sensible person could possibly believe that the entire universe came to be just as it is today merely by random happenstance. such a way of thinking is in my view, completely irrational and ludicrous
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I think it's completely irrational that we are even considering the begginings of the universe. We have little to know evidence about any theory that it was created even. We are talking about trillions of years here.
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If nature is a self evolving program there must be a programmer imo. If he, she, it, cares about babysitting the creation its another thing....
μηνιν αειδε θεα Πηληιαδεω Αχιληοs ουλομενην
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Ok, but who created the "programmer"? If someone created the universe then who created him and so on?
If someone created him then who created the one that created him and so on and so on till there is no answer, only speculation.
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How come there are more Christians than atheists in the "What Religion are you?" poll, whereas there are more atheist here? I don't follow the logic.
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Do you think the origin of Judaism and hence Christianity can be found in the mythology of ancient Sumer or Egypt?Originally Posted by NeonGod
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