Mysterious Unit.....

**Wishazu** · 05-15-2005, 17:29

very good for ambushing and pretty good defence for a barb unit

**The Stranger** · 05-15-2005, 18:20

yup, thaTs it. axe inf, pretty good, they are the more defensive counterpart of your chosens

**Mikeus Caesar** · 05-15-2005, 19:14

You're extremely lucky to see those in a campaign, because the AI very rarely builds good units like those.

**The Stranger** · 05-15-2005, 19:20

yup

**pezhetairoi** · 05-16-2005, 02:18

And did I mention, they rock. Very much. Slightly more than Chosen Axemen and slightly less than Berserkers.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 05-16-2005, 02:29

Yeah, Night Raiders rule, I always have at least four of them and two Chosens in custom battles as Germany.

**pezhetairoi** · 05-16-2005, 04:01

Ahaha, there you're different from me--my backbone is spear warbands. The mobile flanks are Chosens, and the reserve are Night Raiders.

**Viking** · 05-16-2005, 14:20

Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar

You're extremely lucky to see those in a campaign, because the AI very rarely builds good units like those.

In my ongoing campaign, the germans keep sending those night raiders at me like crazy!

**Alien of Germania** · 05-16-2005, 20:10

After 3 long campaigns playing Germania (Im now playing Britons for a change), I found the Night Raiders very useful to take walls when fighting against Romans, they often have loads of principes and cohorts up there. So a mix of chosen axemen and regular axemen with night raiders works really good there, after taken the gates send the spearwarband inside the town, thats a crush.

**sunsmountain** · 05-16-2005, 23:04

That means the Germans either grew quite large, or were quite lucky in that particular city to have that particular bardic circle.

You see, germans are balanced mao, according to descr_strat.txt
In this thread:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=45212

you can read what that means.

mao
biased towards mass troops, light infantry

So its rare to see a German faction with:
A. a minor city
B. money to spare on a bardic circle
since most of it is spent on units. And night raiders dont qualify as mass troops or light infantry.

It gets even better: Gaul is a 'religious smith' in which religious means it will build temples to Abnoba and Teutatis, but not Esus/Epona. Pretty shitty if you're the Julii and you want to build your Pantheon (level 5 temple) to Epona, for which you need a level 3 Epona temple from the Gauls. Epona gives +5 experience to 'raw recruits', making them instant veterans.

Spain could help out, but is geared towards Esus, if Abnoba fails.

and dammit this reminds me of the night battles that should have already been in the game.