Let's see how this plays out...

[Goofball]

Luis Posada, a terrorist who has admittedly made bombing attacks on civilian locations, is applying for political asylum in the U.S. Should be a no-brainer, right? I mean come on, with the U.S. being the self-proclaimed leader in the Global War on Terror, they should immediately deny his claim and ship him back to either of the two countries wanting his extradition.

The problem?

The terrorist attacks he committed were against the Cuban Castro regime.

So, is the Global War on Terror really a war against all terrorists, or only against those terrorists that don't serve U.S. interests?

Your move Mr. Bush.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7678398/

[Crazed Rabbit]

A guy who has admitted bombing civilian targets?

Well then, it would appear very simple: kick the guy out.

The ends (no Castro) do not justify the means (civilian killing).

Crazed Rabbit

[monkian]

A guy who has admitted bombing civilian targets?

Well then, it would appear very simple: kick the guy out.

The ends (no Castro) do not justify the means (civilian killing).

Crazed Rabbit

The ends (no Saddam) do not justify the means (civillian killing) ....

[Don Corleone]

Ah yes, right on topic Monkian. Even when Americans on the Right agree with your point, you gotta give us the finger. Typical Leftist, no interest in common understanding, just bashing everyone you disagree with.

[Tribesman]

A guy who has admitted bombing civilian targets?
Not any more , despite his earlier admissions he now says "lets leave it to history"
The ends (no Castro) do not justify the means (civilian killing).
But he believes in armed struggle and revolution to achieve his aims
And for his finest quote ...
"I would never have participated in any conspiracy with 'Monkey' Morales , I'd have to be crazy . My God!!!"
So despite recently declassified Federal government papers linking this former CIA operative with Morales and the Aircraft bombing he denies it . Yeah he would have to be crazy to do something like that , but sane enough to blow up tourist resorts
Looks like theres one illegal that the Minutemen project failed to stop at the border .
I don't see much chance of him being handed over to Cuba or Venezuela , maybe they should hand him over the Italians , lets see how his reasoning "The tourist was just in the wrong place at the wrong time" stands up in court .

[monkian]

Ah yes, right on topic Monkian. Even when Americans on the Right agree with your point, you gotta give us the finger. Typical Leftist, no interest in common understanding, just bashing everyone you disagree with.

*yawn*

Prove I'm a 'leftist' (whatever that is) and where did I previously state my point ?

PS You just used your post to tar and bash all 'leftists' with the same brush. Congrats

[Don Corleone]

Let's see, since you're apparently having troubles following what at the time was a 3 post thread, please allow me to summarize:

1) Goofball made the point the US should extradite a man who's admitted to bombing civilian targets. He suggested that even though this was done in Cuba, to protest Castro, the US not doing so would reek of hypocricy.

2) Crazed Rabbit, one of the more Right posters agreed completely.

3) You chime in with a dig at the Iraq War effort, which, until you piped up, had nothing to do with the discussion.

[Kaiser of Arabia]

This case is diff from the Saddam case Monk.

[monkian]

Let's see, since you're apparently having troubles following what at the time was a 3 post thread, please allow me to summarize:

1) Goofball made the point the US should extradite a man who's admitted to bombing civilian targets. He suggested that even though this was done in Cuba, to protest Castro, the US not doing so would reek of hypocricy.

2) Crazed Rabbit, one of the more Right posters agreed completely.

3) You chime in with a dig at the Iraq War effort, which, until you piped up, had nothing to do with the discussion.

1) Agreed- yes, yes he did

2) Yup- he seemed to agree- didnt note him stating his politcal following though

3) Ah yes, but you'll notice - I didn't say that Crazed Rabbit was wrong, bash his political leaning or state mine.

You however

*brought 'right' and 'left' into this

*Bashed all 'leftists'

[BDC]

Hah, let's see how hypocritical this can make the Bush administration look.

[Don Corleone]

Okay Monk, fair enough. Perhaps I jumped the gun on that one, and you were beating a dead horse, possibly trolling, but not necessarily attacking CR. You have my apologies on that. But you did go way off topic.

[Byzantine Prince]

Ah yes, it seems an even bigger concern for America is communism. I guess global terrorism isn't so bad if it's targeting communist civilians.

This goes ditto for the NAzis. America didn't wanna declare war on the Nazis. In fact they started attacking jews by saying it's their fault. Why? Because the Nazis were destroying the Soviets. Talk about f'ed priorities.

[Don Corleone]

Uhm, BP, did you take your meds today? Thus far, nobody has advocated defending Mr. Posada or granting him sanctuary.

He should be sent back to Cuba. Anybody who targets civilians is an enemy of humanity and should be dealt with according to the local laws.

[Adrian II]

Ah yes, it seems an even bigger concern for America is communism. I guess global terrorism isn't so bad if it's targeting communist civilians.

This goes ditto for the NAzis. America didn't wanna declare war on the Nazis. In fact they started attacking jews by saying it's their fault. Why? Because the Nazis were destroying the Soviets. Talk about f'ed priorities.

BP, are you taking your pills? You better make sure, or else the mods are going to make you swallow one you won't enjoy. Shape up, man.

[Adrian II]

Uhm, BP, did you take your meds today?

Hahahahaha, did you notice what I just posted in the same minute as you, Don? I'm gonna marry you one of these days, honey.

[Don Corleone]

Okay, but given that homosexual marriage isn't currently legal in North Carolina, which of us is going to Sweden?

[Adrian II]

Okay, but given that homosexual marriage isn't currently legal in North Carolina, which of us is going to Sweden?

Whoever gets there first, cupcakes. But we better get on our way before we're kicked out of this thread for OT posting.

[Don Corleone]

Uhm, yeah, well, I hate to say it, but Goofy's post ain't going very far. I think he was trying to start a debate, hoping somebody would stick up for this Posada guy, and it's a valid question, but I don't think you're going to find many people defending him. And I see a lot of Republicans getting pretty peeved if we did offer this joker immunity. I heard all about him on NPR (and funny, this one of the rare times National Review is in lockstep with them) and the guy blew up a passenger jet going from Cuba to Venezuela. From what I can tell, the CIA disavowed him in 1976 shortly after that, apparently he was pulling at the leash too hard, as they must not have wanted that on their conscience. He's currently on the lam, with the US state department claiming they can't honor Venezuela's extradition request. We haven't granted him any immunities, but Panama has. All in all, a dirtbag, and it's very, very rare that William F. Buckley and Daniel Shore agree on anything. If one said the sky was blue, the other would call it propaganda.

[Hurin_Rules]

Something just happened with Posada-- I caught the end of a story on CNN that they called 'breaking news', but I was too late to see what happened. ANyone?

[Don Corleone]

Castro, and about 200,000 Cubans marched through the streets of Havana and started a protest outside the US consulate (which I didn't think we had).

[Redleg]

Something just happened with Posada-- I caught the end of a story on CNN that they called 'breaking news', but I was too late to see what happened. ANyone?

Could it be along the lines that the United States decided to detain him?

http://www.comcast.net/news/internat...17/134744.html

[Lazul]

Okay, but given that homosexual marriage isn't currently legal in North Carolina, which of us is going to Sweden?

*imagen having Don and AdrianII next door*

*starts to shake*

ooohh... oh GOD! NOOooooo!!!!

ok sorry, Ill stop making lame posts.

Back to Topic: Well, I must say it will be intresting to see what happens, my guess is that it wont get any room in the media and he will be shipped back to Cuba and then he's f'ed.

[Goofball]

Uhm, yeah, well, I hate to say it, but Goofy's post ain't going very far. I think he was trying to start a debate, hoping somebody would stick up for this Posada guy, and it's a valid question, but I don't think you're going to find many people defending him.

Actually, I was pretty sure that the conservative patrons would either advocate punishing the guy, or just stay out of the thread. I just wanted to get the topic started so we could have the discussion before the U.S. gov't took any action, then see how the discussion turns after the decision is made (hopefully soon), one way or the other.

My prediction:

They don't grant asylum, but neither do they extradite him to Venezuela or Cuba. Instead, they will allow him to leave the U.S. and go to whatever country he can sweet-talk into letting him in. They are going to try to make this somebody else's problem.

Any other predictions?

[Don Corleone]

I don't know what you're talking about, big guy. I'm seriously impressed! You started a thread about the hypocricy of allowing Pasada to float around on the lam, and whammo, the feds picked him up! Amazing! The State Dept. must be in here taking their cues from ya, cous.

Proletariat, come clean, are you really Condi in disguise? An intelligent woman AND a Republican? How many of THOSE are out there floating around.

[Goofball]

I don't know what you're talking about, big guy. I'm seriously impressed! You started a thread about the hypocricy of allowing Pasada to float around on the lam, and whammo, the feds picked him up! Amazing! The State Dept. must be in here taking their cues from ya, cous.

What can I say? I know a guy, I made a call. Fuhgedda bowdit...

[Hurin_Rules]

Could it be along the lines that the United States decided to detain him?

http://www.comcast.net/news/internat...17/134744.html

Yep, thanks Redleg. Looks like the picked him up; more here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7886697/

[Proletariat]

Proletariat, come clean, are you really Condi in disguise? An intelligent woman AND a Republican? How many of THOSE are out there floating around.

Too kind, and I'm surprised I had you so fooled.

I'm actually a Hobbesian Authoritarian Radical disguised as a right leaning war gamer in order to find chinks in the enemy's armor.

[Crazed Rabbit]

The ends (no Saddam) do not justify the means (civillian killing) ....

Since when has the US killed civilians in order to overthrow Saddam? That's complete BS. The US has never tried to overthrow Saddam by killing civilians. Bext time, if you don't have anythig constructive to actually add to the thread, then don't try and drag it off topic.

2) Yup- he seemed to agree- didnt note him stating his politcal following though

3) Ah yes, but you'll notice - I didn't say that Crazed Rabbit was wrong, bash his political leaning or state mine.

If you know anything of my previous posts, you'd know that I was conservative. But, hey, maybe you didn't. But don't try to act as if your Saddam reference was but an innocent remark. You were just trying to start trouble.

To the topic-
It appears the US has detained him. I think it is slightly more likely they will extradite him for trial. They will almost definately not allow him to stay here. They may let him seek asylum elsewhere-but I hope they don't.

I'm actually a Hobbesian Authoritarian Radical disguised as a right leaning war gamer in order to find chinks in the enemy's armor.

Any chinks in the armor of people who pretend to fight 600 years ago might be a bit outdated.

Crazed Rabbit

[Proletariat]

Got you. I'm actually a Lesbian Otter who is here to seek out any chink's in the enemy's armor.

[Don Corleone]

Okay, the lesbian part grabbed my attention. Got any home movies? Just kidding. Seriously though, what is a "Lesbian Otter". And there's no way you're in deep cover, cause you've got a shoddy cover. You'd never go around claiming to be an atheist if you just wanted to get the dirt on the God, guns and gays party.