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    So what is your opinion : is a person should be blamed for bying pirate's disks?
    On the hand it is obviosly bad , because he buys stolen job , and the good guys from the company who made the disk don't get their rightly earned money , but on the other hand what person should do if he comes to the shop and see ONLY pirate's produced disks , and if he have to pay for his education , for his leasure time e.t.c.?

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    Yes, if they know that the disks are pirated. I would never buy pirated disks, they never work for me ... what? I didn't say that...
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    But if there are no other produvtion avaluable?

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    I never buy pirated stuff, easy theft is still theft. Wait for the bargain bin if you are too poor to pay 60 euro.

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    Buy pirated stuff? Never thought of that as an option.

    I thought piracy was meaning downloading from the i.net rather buying it.
    Why buy a pirate version when you can buy one that are legal, are they that much cheaper?
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    are they that much cheaper?
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    Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

    At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

    At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.
    No, it isn't. Games have copyright, just like cd's. Publishers created their own monster with the prices they ask, but that is their choice, and not copying/downloading stuff is mine. Stealing is stealing if you ask me, even if everyone does it.

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    i never buy pirated stuff. tough i do sometimes copy a game from a friend (as far as i know these are original cd's)

    We do not sow.

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    It is the same that buying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IliaDN
    It is the same that buying!
    it isn't really pirated, it is pirated a little bit, but atleast they got cash for one disc, and they can always go selling empty cd's

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    I never buy pirated stuff, I get it for free

    No but seriously, I do that just to check if the game is worth it. I feel it keeps the producers in check.

    After I try it out and like I consider purchasing it. I don't see this as being any different from let's say buying a house. You don't buy a house at random when you have no idea what's in it and wether you would like living there. And people don't make it illigal for you to go inside a little to see it do they? Is that piracy too(lol)?

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    Check new comer question thread in colluseum,
    and keep in mind that I want to buy legal copy , but when :
    1. I have enough free money ;
    2. After E.B. expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony
    No, it isn't. Games have copyright, just like cd's. Publishers created their own monster with the prices they ask, but that is their choice, and not copying/downloading stuff is mine. Stealing is stealing if you ask me, even if everyone does it.
    It is illegal to MAKE copies for use outside the family circle,, apparently, downloading doesn't fit this description, as it is making a copy for your own use. Under Belgian law, only the distributer of illegal material is held accountable.

    The new law will make it illegal to own or use anything that circumvents copyright protection. This includes mod chips, no cd hacks, etc.

    I think they are also going to extend this to 'all material acquired with these tools' or some other legal description, so that would make downloading hacked games illegal.

    Just to be clear, I don't download or copy since I think it is morally wrong.
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    This reminds me of something. Apparently a student on a gap year in Australia was on a boat that was captured by pirates. REAL PIRATES as in the kind who board ships and rape, plunder and pillage - not the sort of sissies who think they're a bit risque because they download a keygen once.
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    Default Re: Pirates!

    And what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

    At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.
    Download and buy while you can, and send me some! To anyone besides doc_bean: you DID NOT read what I just wrote

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    I really dislike pirating, and I dislike even more those who brag about.

    My summary of this thread:
    Pirating is OK because I can't afford the stuff I want.
    Pirating is OK because "I feel it keeps the producers in check."
    Pirating is OK because there aren't laws against it. Even though there are.
    Pirating is OK because it "is the only way for consumers to hit the big companies that care only about their pockets and overrated products."
    Pirating isn't OK when the quality is bad.
    These reasons suck. And BP, give me a break. Not a single one of your analogies were even slightly valid.

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    I have the feeling that this thread is turning into a pirating/ripping justification thread.

    Better stop before any more patrons out themselves as thieves...

    Thread closed

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    Default Re: Pirates!

    Quote Originally Posted by IliaDN
    and if he have to pay for his education , for his leasure time e.t.c.?
    The fact that you can't afford RTW retail does not mean you have any justification or right to steal it. Few of us can afford everything we want. We all manage to prioritise by marginal value, you can as well.

    I find it difficult to beleive that with the level of internet shopping available, it is impossible for you to buy legitimate games.
    Last edited by Productivity; 05-19-2005 at 17:03.

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    Default Re: Pirates!

    for games, some of them are alright, since the price of a video game is ridiculous, but movies just plain no. Not good quality, ever.
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