Pirates!

[doc_bean]

Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.

[Fragony]

Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.

No, it isn't. Games have copyright, just like cd's. Publishers created their own monster with the prices they ask, but that is their choice, and not copying/downloading stuff is mine. Stealing is stealing if you ask me, even if everyone does it.

[The Stranger]

i never buy pirated stuff. tough i do sometimes copy a game from a friend (as far as i know these are original cd's)

[IliaDN]

It is the same that buying!

[The Stranger]

It is the same that buying!

it isn't really pirated, it is pirated a little bit, but atleast they got cash for one disc, and they can always go selling empty cd's

[Byzantine Prince]

I never buy pirated stuff, I get it for free

No but seriously, I do that just to check if the game is worth it. I feel it keeps the producers in check.

After I try it out and like I consider purchasing it. I don't see this as being any different from let's say buying a house. You don't buy a house at random when you have no idea what's in it and wether you would like living there. And people don't make it illigal for you to go inside a little to see it do they? Is that piracy too(lol)?

[IliaDN]

Check new comer question thread in colluseum,
and keep in mind that I want to buy legal copy , but when :
1. I have enough free money ;
2. After E.B. expansion.

[doc_bean]

No, it isn't. Games have copyright, just like cd's. Publishers created their own monster with the prices they ask, but that is their choice, and not copying/downloading stuff is mine. Stealing is stealing if you ask me, even if everyone does it.

It is illegal to MAKE copies for use outside the family circle,, apparently, downloading doesn't fit this description, as it is making a copy for your own use. Under Belgian law, only the distributer of illegal material is held accountable.

The new law will make it illegal to own or use anything that circumvents copyright protection. This includes mod chips, no cd hacks, etc.

I think they are also going to extend this to 'all material acquired with these tools' or some other legal description, so that would make downloading hacked games illegal.

Just to be clear, I don't download or copy since I think it is morally wrong.

[Al Khalifah]

This reminds me of something. Apparently a student on a gap year in Australia was on a boat that was captured by pirates. REAL PIRATES as in the kind who board ships and rape, plunder and pillage - not the sort of sissies who think they're a bit risque because they download a keygen once.

[IliaDN]

And what?

[Byzantine Prince]

No but isn't more fair if you can try the full game before purchasing it? I think it is. In some cases you don't need to like RTW because you know what it's like, but for other games it's much harder to tell.

[Productivity]

No but isn't more fair if you can try the full game before purchasing it? I think it is. In some cases you don't need to like RTW because you know what it's like, but for other games it's much harder to tell.

That's the risk you take. There is no absolute right to be able to try before you buy. Some goods have this, but plenty don't. Do you go into a supermarket and demand to eat an apple before you will buy any?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.

Download and buy while you can, and send me some! To anyone besides doc_bean: you DID NOT read what I just wrote

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I really dislike pirating, and I dislike even more those who brag about.

My summary of this thread:
Pirating is OK because I can't afford the stuff I want.
Pirating is OK because "I feel it keeps the producers in check."
Pirating is OK because there aren't laws against it. Even though there are.
Pirating is OK because it "is the only way for consumers to hit the big companies that care only about their pockets and overrated products."
Pirating isn't OK when the quality is bad.

These reasons suck. And BP, give me a break. Not a single one of your analogies were even slightly valid.

[Ser Clegane]

I have the feeling that this thread is turning into a pirating/ripping justification thread.

Better stop before any more patrons out themselves as thieves...

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