Pirates!

[Husar]

A sentence comes to my mind, saying: "This game is protected by international copyright laws."
I can´t remember where I read that, but it must have been more than once.
If I understand that correctly, international means everywhere on earth, including Canada.

[The Stranger]

i'm not from canada

[Byzantine Prince]

A sentence comes to my mind, saying: "This game is protected by international copyright laws."
I can´t remember where I read that, but it must have been more than once.
If I understand that correctly, international means everywhere on earth, including Canada.

The copyright laws don't work in some countries at all actually. Just because it's called international doesn't mean there is legislature in every single country supporting it.

As for Canada and/or places like Japan sharing private information such as computer data from a CD-rom is not illigal. Distribution of illigal disks is of course, and that's what that copyright law entails.

[Idomeneas]

sometimes piracy is the only way for consumers to hit the big companies that care only about their pockets and overrated products. Its is well known that many big software companies cough -adobe -cough were licking their own products so in that way they will spread on a wider costumer base wich those costumers on the one hand had a free product but on the other hand they wouldnt risk using it for proffessional exploitation since if they were cought they would had their ass cut by fines. Over the years those products went in almost every home and users being accustomed to using them they would pay for them later and prefer them over other maybe cheaper software.

The customer base increased and the prices also. At this point were a product like photoshop is dominant they start using nifty locks and activation gimmicks.

Its a big complicated matter. I agree many companies lose money but on the other hand they would propably never get those money since the product
a)would not be wide spread
b)other cheaper products would prevail

[Spetulhu]

The thing that really sucks here is that copy protection sometimes interferes with my rightful usage of the product. Seems I don't own the thing I paid good money for!

I really like to rip my music CDs to my PC so I don't have to keep swapping discs all the time, but copy protection makes it hard at times. I've got one so-called CD where the music is encoded in something my PC can't even recognize. Making a copy of the game CD or using a nocd crack so I don't have to wear out the original is also a reasonable thing, but increasingly hard today.

Do you think the real pirates have problems with this? They get around the copy protection once and start the CD press, making money on it. And all the music houses whine about it even as they continue selling music at too high prices and too low quality.

Why, back in the days... I remember how they said CDs would eventually become far cheaper than vinyl, once the initial investments were paid off. But that hasn't happened.

[Lonewarrior]

for games, some of them are alright, since the price of a video game is ridiculous, but movies just plain no. Not good quality, ever.

[Idomeneas]

The thing that really sucks here is that copy protection sometimes interferes with my rightful usage of the product. Seems I don't own the thing I paid good money for!

I really like to rip my music CDs to my PC so I don't have to keep swapping discs all the time, but copy protection makes it hard at times. I've got one so-called CD where the music is encoded in something my PC can't even recognize. Making a copy of the game CD or using a nocd crack so I don't have to wear out the original is also a reasonable thing, but increasingly hard today.

Do you think the real pirates have problems with this? They get around the copy protection once and start the CD press, making money on it. And all the music houses whine about it even as they continue selling music at too high prices and too low quality.

Why, back in the days... I remember how they said CDs would eventually become far cheaper than vinyl, once the initial investments were paid off. But that hasn't happened.

Youre so right! For record companies a vinyl album production was too costly since it included record printing machines, more expensive packaging due to dimentions and carton-paper and printing.

In nowdays the technology has advanced so much that even if you jam in a studio you can have your rehearsal on cd. More accuratelly whole productions can be done in home studios.

So what do we have? reduced production cost and higher prices at the same time of the product. Deep pockets getting deeper.

The other crazy thing? Software licence for two stations!! whats that ? I paid 1500 euro for a software and i wanna have it in all the work stations i god damn own!! They take us for completly victims? Is it my fault after if i use pirated software?

Movies DVD unless they have some killer packaging like LOTR i just go to my video club, rent anything i want and rip them. I have a huge collection and it costs only 1.5 euro a movie instead of 40 or 50.

Under jolly Roger!!

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes, but I'm pretty sure that is legal to do overhere, as is downloading anything from the net.

At least for a little while longer, they're changing the IP laws.

Download and buy while you can, and send me some! To anyone besides doc_bean: you DID NOT read what I just wrote

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

I really dislike pirating, and I dislike even more those who brag about.

My summary of this thread:
Pirating is OK because I can't afford the stuff I want.
Pirating is OK because "I feel it keeps the producers in check."
Pirating is OK because there aren't laws against it. Even though there are.
Pirating is OK because it "is the only way for consumers to hit the big companies that care only about their pockets and overrated products."
Pirating isn't OK when the quality is bad.

These reasons suck. And BP, give me a break. Not a single one of your analogies were even slightly valid.

[Ser Clegane]

I have the feeling that this thread is turning into a pirating/ripping justification thread.

Better stop before any more patrons out themselves as thieves...

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