When will you finish the Beta?

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Copperhaired Berserker! 23:27 05-20-2005

I don't want you to rush your work but can you tell me when we'll get the Beta at the rate you are working at?

Mongoose 18:54 05-21-2005

I'm not a member of the team

but i think i know the answer to your question...

WHEN IT'S DONE

Just be patient, it will arrive soon enough.

Sarcasm 19:12 05-21-2005

Soon.

Copperhaired Berserker! 19:39 05-21-2005

Mongoose, like what I said, I said that what date do you THINK you'll finish at this RATE. so you comment is invalid

khelvan 19:54 05-21-2005

"Finish" is an entirely subjective term in this context.

Mongoose 20:38 05-21-2005

"Mongoose, like what I said, I said that what date do you THINK you'll finish at this RATE. so you comment is invalid"

Right, but that rate will change. It's not consistent, they might find a huge bug and spend two weeks fixing it. any thing they say now will be totally wrong. What's the point?

I find that it's best to just completely leave people alone when it comes to release dates, modding is very stressful

Copperhaired Berserker! 21:51 05-21-2005

I meant that what time will be the release at this rate of work WITHOUT any incidents

khelvan 21:55 05-21-2005

Sorry, there is no way to tell. The work is entirely about discovering these "incidents," as you call them, and dealing with them.

Mongoose 00:01 05-22-2005

Like i said before, *anything* they say now will be totally wrong. You might as well talk to a witch doctor.

jerby 00:04 05-22-2005

well, what will it help? everyhting they guess will only dissapoint people. i heard one say that the beta will be there in april. some peopel (NOT me) are dissapointed by that. so if nobody did any guessing. nobody will be dissapointed, and indeed call a withdoctor ;)

Mongoose 01:05 05-22-2005

Can i be the "offical annoying rodent who says WHEN IT'S DONE when ever an ETA thread pops up"?

Just a thought

Big_John 01:06 05-22-2005

i'd like to speak to EB's resident witch doctor, please.

Copperhaired Berserker! 01:15 05-22-2005

Originally Posted by mongoose:
Can i be the "offical annoying rodent who says WHEN IT'S DONE when ever an ETA thread pops up"?

Just a thought

Don't you dare otherwise....

Mongoose 01:18 05-22-2005

He's away, let me replace him for now.

*Looks at crystal ball*

The mighty ZULULULLULU says that EB beta will be released when the crops die and sun is gone!

The mighty ZULULULLULU knows ALL.

Big_John 01:43 05-22-2005

Originally Posted by mongoose:
The mighty ZULULULLULU says that EB beta will be released when the crops die and sun is gone!

yikes! you mean, like, for good?

now i'm not looking forward to EB so much anymore.. take as long as you want guys..

Sheep 02:13 05-22-2005

Originally Posted by mongoose:
Can i be the "offical annoying rodent who says WHEN IT'S DONE when ever an ETA thread pops up"?

Sure, except mongooses (mongeese?) aren't rodents.[/pedantic]

http://education.yahoo.com/reference...entry?id=32058

Mongoose 02:43 05-22-2005

When figureing out whats a rodent or not, it's what's on the inside that counts

Any way, i just don't see the point of these ETA threads. What possible purpose could they serve?

EDIT:
Fair enough, my title has been changed. Thanks for the link BTW.

How about this?

Can i be the "offical annoying CIVET who says WHEN IT'S DONE when ever an ETA thread pops up"?

Simetrical 05:08 05-22-2005

We used to give out RTR 6.0 release dates. First we were aiming for a release by the end of April, then we figured early May, then mid-May, then we were hoping for the end of May, now we've given up and started denying any and every possible release date. EB seems to have wised up quicker, being as they hoped for the end of April, then clammed up as soon as it was clear they would miss that one.

I have new sympathy for professional development teams who give "when it's done" as their release date.

-Simetrical

Dux Corvanus 11:49 05-22-2005

The term 'public beta' applies to near-to-finished products that are by no means complete but have reached a point when their creators think they can give a general impression of the finished thing and adquire feedback from the end users.

When that point is reached, is not an exact science, and requires the solving of many unexpected issues and exhaustive discussion among developers about the minimum degree of completion needed to consider it deserves public release.

We can't give a date that even us do not know with accuracy but speculate about. I can only say that EB team is working hard and fast, things are coming along nicely, and coordinators are ruthlessly grasping the whips

, so I guess our friends won't have to wait a lot to have a WIP EB installed in their HDs.

Right?

Vercingetorix 21:12 05-22-2005

Soon the beta is.

Mongoose 21:25 05-22-2005

GAH! they are going to hold you to that! quick, edit your post! before some one starts a thread about it!!!!!

Vercingetorix 22:08 05-22-2005

Except that like my EB progress bar it tells you nothing

TheBagelmeister 23:03 05-22-2005

Originally Posted by khelvan:
Sorry, there is no way to tell. The work is entirely about discovering these "incidents," as you call them, and dealing with them.

Not to be arguementative, but isn't that what beta testing if for?

Ranika 23:10 05-22-2005

Many of our current issues are rather large and noticable, having to do with additions or changes we make to how the game runs. They're pretty much impossible to not notice, and are huge irritations to playing the game properly. The beta we hope to have the major bugs and problems worked out (as well as have all our systems in place), so we can get more focused and nitpick over more minor issues and fix those without distraction from large game stopping irritations.

TheBagelmeister 23:23 05-22-2005

Do you guys need anyone to do simple jobs that no one wants to do? Cause I'll gladly help. :)

Mongoose 04:27 05-23-2005

"Except that like my EB progress bar it tells you nothing"

member a:Did u guys reed teh post wer vecengintroix(SP?) sed th bayta wud b sooon??!!1!!11
member b:How would you define "soon"?

Then a long, heated, and pointless debate will flare up and people will spend hours arguing over the meaning of "soon". many people will start "You guys are bad at P&R and im pissed" threads

Mongoose 04:35 05-23-2005

Woops, double post. please delete

Faenaris 13:31 05-23-2005

Originally Posted by mongoose:
"Except that like my EB progress bar it tells you nothing"

member a:Did u guys reed teh post wer vecengintroix(SP?) sed th bayta wud b sooon??!!1!!11
member b:How would you define "soon"?

Then a long, heated, and pointless debate will flare up and people will spend hours arguing over the meaning of "soon". many people will start "You guys are bad at P&R and im pissed" threads

Trust me, soon can mean anything. Anyone here been a Beta tester of O.R.B? If so, you know what I mean with soon TM.

Mmm, I forgot the "ALT + number" combination of TM. Can someone enlighten me on that one.

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